17年式 Mazda CX-5 玻璃變速箱請益 - 保養

By Christine
at 2022-06-17T00:15
at 2022-06-17T00:15
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嗨大家好,很不幸的又看到我回覆自己的文了
我是 Mazda CX5 的車主
車種:MAZDA CX-5/NCD-71-04-7(17年式-汽油)
目前行駛約 6 萬多公里
7成高速公路行駛|3成平面道路行駛
油耗目前是12.5km/L
N/P/R檔換D檔
以及高速公路行駛下有明顯頓挫感
是的,我的車變速箱壞了
當初選擇 MAZDA 是看重他的安全係數在國際檢測中是非常高的 (美國IIHS撞擊測試)
我在平時的使用上也都是良好的習慣
完全不會重踩油門或是頻繁的轉換檔位
車子還也都在完全停下來的情況下才排檔
車子也從來都沒有改車
而車子的維修與保養紀錄
都【完全都在原廠保養維修】
也依照原廠指示做例行性的更換
如果良好的用車習慣跟都在原廠保養
著實無法理解為什麼『變速箱』會在六萬公里時候故障?
其實跟蠻多車友或朋友討論
有良好用車習慣而且也都在原廠保養
變速箱基本上都可以使用到 15~20萬km 以上
在 2022.04.22 進廠檢查(里程數 60608 km)
換檔完全無頓挫感
測試數值都正常
移車期間換檔也沒問題
當時技術長說明這是偶發性的問題
所以也沒有辦法直接解決
因爲是偶發性問題
建議換「變速箱油就好」
(變速箱舊油和新油的照片我都有留存)
然而在 2022.06.13 行駛時(里程數 61304 km)
不但在N/P/R檔換D檔出現頓挫
甚至在高速公路行駛下有明顯頓挫感
現在只要開車就會讓我壓力很大
不懂為什麼良好駕駛跟在原廠保養變速箱這麼容易壞掉
當初也推薦許多人買Mazda系列的車
包含 CX30、CX5
未來呢?
我曾經聽過一句話
車是家的延伸
如果家這麼容易出問題了
我們這些車主要怎麼快樂呢?
附上保養維修單跟一些資料
https://i.imgur.com/ihbuW3x.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/YA13aQW.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/f5W8yLH.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/5TEBtyz.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/ZvoC3m5.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/bKaPtIh.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/DtOrM6x.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/OnkmGi0.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/eBFoYDm.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/Rcl3DoG.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/laq05Fo.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/DvsLHeP.jpg
※ 引述《Ken1843 (Ken1843)》之銘言:
: 想多方詢問各處的建議
: 17年式 Cx5 目前開6萬多公里
: N/P/R檔換D檔有頓挫感明顯
: 感覺齒輪慢0.5-1秒才掛上
: 有時候又沒問題
: 原廠檢查是說變速箱油壓過高
: 要整個換掉變速箱
: 想請問大家還有其他解法嗎
: ————分隔線————-
: 這邊做個紀錄跟前情提要給大家參考
: 車子狀態
: 2018-2-7領牌|2021-2-6過保
: 8成高速公路行駛|2成平面道路行駛
: 油耗目前是12.5km/L
: 完全都在原廠保養維修
: 以往在北部工作
: 所以都在A廠保修
: 目前是在南部工作
: 大部分都是去B廠保修
: 但自從上次被B廠當盤子後有不好經驗
: 就到這次的C廠檢查
: (B廠說引擎皮帶劣化需要更換,拆下來檢查根本就是正常可使用的,現場請專員指出
哪
: 裡劣化專員無法解釋)
: 2022/4/20
: 原保養廠C部分
: 表示變速箱油壓過高無法解決
: (現場問保養廠說換變速箱油也沒幫助)
: 2022/4/20
: 外廠部分
: 表示高溫低溫過程中
: 變速箱油多少都會劣化
: 不管歐日X系車都一樣
: (Ex:日系車建議3萬公里要換)
: 不然長久下來變速箱都有機會出問題
: 外廠建議先詢問原廠變速箱問題
: 因為四年六萬定期回「原廠」保養
: 變速箱壞掉很奇怪
: —————————————
: 2022/4/20
: 剛剛打官網的服務電話
: 問題會反應到總公司和經銷商
: 後續由他們做處理
: But我這邊是接到服務廠B廠的電話?
: 說明會先去了解C服務廠的狀況
: 請我有空再到B廠檢查一次(很怕被當盤子
: 2022/4/21
: B服務廠上下午通話說車子會正常損耗
: B去看C廠檢測報告
: 說尊重C廠的數據
: 還是要換變速箱
: WTF?
: 從頭到尾都是客服致電
: 讓人感覺沒有要解決問題
: 客服都是以官方式的回答來處理事情
: 後來我說我 4/22 再進場一次
: 但請不要安排和上次同一個專員跟技術人員
: 2022/4/22
: 上午開車進廠
: 換檔完全無頓挫感
: 原廠測試數值都正常
: 移車期間換檔也沒問題
: 技術長說明這是偶發性的問題
: 所以也沒有辦法直接解決
: 但有出現問題代表內部機械可能有耗損
: 詢問解決方式
: 建議
: 1.因爲是偶發性問題,建議換「變速箱油就好」
: 2.是否建議變速箱歸零重新學習?可以
: ———變速箱油是否更換———-
: 再來是變速箱油要不要換
: 技術長建議2-4萬還是要更換
: (他本身也是這樣做)
: 對變速箱比較好
: ———整新的變速箱哪來———-
: 假如我要換整新變速箱
: 舊的變速箱會拆下來交給外廠維修
: 維修後再交給原廠
: 原廠會給保固一年
: ------原廠/車友方法統計&官方回覆-------
: 1.原廠:換變速箱:因為原廠沒有在更換零件(是交給外廠)所以要換就會直接換新的
: 2.車友:AT循環機換油,濾網也一併換:目前我是選擇這樣處理,換油要五罐(歐系車
6-
: 7罐不等
: 3.車友:換變速箱腳就好了:變速箱有三個腳,發動的時候會震動,引擎腳會吸收震動
,
: 如果再行駛期間一直有在挫動,那有可能是腳的問題
: 4.車友:換檔控制閥故障,控制閥更換:插電腦可以檢查控制閥是否開啟,所以如果有
問
: 題,電腦會偵測得到
: 5.車友:變速箱歸零重新學習試試看:這也可以做,就像電腦重灌一樣,但如果是內部
機
: 械問題無法解決
: ————————————————-
: 一般的變速箱也沒那麼容易壞吧!?
--
我是 Mazda CX5 的車主
車種:MAZDA CX-5/NCD-71-04-7(17年式-汽油)
目前行駛約 6 萬多公里
7成高速公路行駛|3成平面道路行駛
油耗目前是12.5km/L
N/P/R檔換D檔
以及高速公路行駛下有明顯頓挫感
是的,我的車變速箱壞了
當初選擇 MAZDA 是看重他的安全係數在國際檢測中是非常高的 (美國IIHS撞擊測試)
我在平時的使用上也都是良好的習慣
完全不會重踩油門或是頻繁的轉換檔位
車子還也都在完全停下來的情況下才排檔
車子也從來都沒有改車
而車子的維修與保養紀錄
都【完全都在原廠保養維修】
也依照原廠指示做例行性的更換
如果良好的用車習慣跟都在原廠保養
著實無法理解為什麼『變速箱』會在六萬公里時候故障?
其實跟蠻多車友或朋友討論
有良好用車習慣而且也都在原廠保養
變速箱基本上都可以使用到 15~20萬km 以上
在 2022.04.22 進廠檢查(里程數 60608 km)
換檔完全無頓挫感
測試數值都正常
移車期間換檔也沒問題
當時技術長說明這是偶發性的問題
所以也沒有辦法直接解決
因爲是偶發性問題
建議換「變速箱油就好」
(變速箱舊油和新油的照片我都有留存)
然而在 2022.06.13 行駛時(里程數 61304 km)
不但在N/P/R檔換D檔出現頓挫
甚至在高速公路行駛下有明顯頓挫感
現在只要開車就會讓我壓力很大
不懂為什麼良好駕駛跟在原廠保養變速箱這麼容易壞掉
當初也推薦許多人買Mazda系列的車
包含 CX30、CX5
未來呢?
我曾經聽過一句話
車是家的延伸
如果家這麼容易出問題了
我們這些車主要怎麼快樂呢?
附上保養維修單跟一些資料
https://i.imgur.com/ihbuW3x.jpg












※ 引述《Ken1843 (Ken1843)》之銘言:
: 想多方詢問各處的建議
: 17年式 Cx5 目前開6萬多公里
: N/P/R檔換D檔有頓挫感明顯
: 感覺齒輪慢0.5-1秒才掛上
: 有時候又沒問題
: 原廠檢查是說變速箱油壓過高
: 要整個換掉變速箱
: 想請問大家還有其他解法嗎
: ————分隔線————-
: 這邊做個紀錄跟前情提要給大家參考
: 車子狀態
: 2018-2-7領牌|2021-2-6過保
: 8成高速公路行駛|2成平面道路行駛
: 油耗目前是12.5km/L
: 完全都在原廠保養維修
: 以往在北部工作
: 所以都在A廠保修
: 目前是在南部工作
: 大部分都是去B廠保修
: 但自從上次被B廠當盤子後有不好經驗
: 就到這次的C廠檢查
: (B廠說引擎皮帶劣化需要更換,拆下來檢查根本就是正常可使用的,現場請專員指出
哪
: 裡劣化專員無法解釋)
: 2022/4/20
: 原保養廠C部分
: 表示變速箱油壓過高無法解決
: (現場問保養廠說換變速箱油也沒幫助)
: 2022/4/20
: 外廠部分
: 表示高溫低溫過程中
: 變速箱油多少都會劣化
: 不管歐日X系車都一樣
: (Ex:日系車建議3萬公里要換)
: 不然長久下來變速箱都有機會出問題
: 外廠建議先詢問原廠變速箱問題
: 因為四年六萬定期回「原廠」保養
: 變速箱壞掉很奇怪
: —————————————
: 2022/4/20
: 剛剛打官網的服務電話
: 問題會反應到總公司和經銷商
: 後續由他們做處理
: But我這邊是接到服務廠B廠的電話?
: 說明會先去了解C服務廠的狀況
: 請我有空再到B廠檢查一次(很怕被當盤子
: 2022/4/21
: B服務廠上下午通話說車子會正常損耗
: B去看C廠檢測報告
: 說尊重C廠的數據
: 還是要換變速箱
: WTF?
: 從頭到尾都是客服致電
: 讓人感覺沒有要解決問題
: 客服都是以官方式的回答來處理事情
: 後來我說我 4/22 再進場一次
: 但請不要安排和上次同一個專員跟技術人員
: 2022/4/22
: 上午開車進廠
: 換檔完全無頓挫感
: 原廠測試數值都正常
: 移車期間換檔也沒問題
: 技術長說明這是偶發性的問題
: 所以也沒有辦法直接解決
: 但有出現問題代表內部機械可能有耗損
: 詢問解決方式
: 建議
: 1.因爲是偶發性問題,建議換「變速箱油就好」
: 2.是否建議變速箱歸零重新學習?可以
: ———變速箱油是否更換———-
: 再來是變速箱油要不要換
: 技術長建議2-4萬還是要更換
: (他本身也是這樣做)
: 對變速箱比較好
: ———整新的變速箱哪來———-
: 假如我要換整新變速箱
: 舊的變速箱會拆下來交給外廠維修
: 維修後再交給原廠
: 原廠會給保固一年
: ------原廠/車友方法統計&官方回覆-------
: 1.原廠:換變速箱:因為原廠沒有在更換零件(是交給外廠)所以要換就會直接換新的
: 2.車友:AT循環機換油,濾網也一併換:目前我是選擇這樣處理,換油要五罐(歐系車
6-
: 7罐不等
: 3.車友:換變速箱腳就好了:變速箱有三個腳,發動的時候會震動,引擎腳會吸收震動
,
: 如果再行駛期間一直有在挫動,那有可能是腳的問題
: 4.車友:換檔控制閥故障,控制閥更換:插電腦可以檢查控制閥是否開啟,所以如果有
問
: 題,電腦會偵測得到
: 5.車友:變速箱歸零重新學習試試看:這也可以做,就像電腦重灌一樣,但如果是內部
機
: 械問題無法解決
: ————————————————-
: 一般的變速箱也沒那麼容易壞吧!?
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