Peugeot All New 208 5MT - 歐洲車
By Isla
at 2014-06-16T11:26
at 2014-06-16T11:26
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renault 1.2 SAVVY Fiesta i10 1.1 M'car 1.3
3.364 3.364 3.583 3.545 3.182
1.864 1.864 1.926 1.894 1.895
1.321 1.321 1.281 1.192 1.25
0.967 1.029 0.951 0.853 0.909
0.756 0.821 0.756 0.719 0.7
http://ppt.cc/dLK-
無聊查了一下一些近期手排車齒比
(反而208官網沒寫齒比規格查不太到..)
現在都是四五檔越做越小
都不是很線性,省油取向
不過不是得到魚就是熊掌
高轉巡航順暢積碳少
低轉巡航省油安靜
各有好處..
※ 引述《boymike (林麥可)》之銘言:
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3.364 3.364 3.583 3.545 3.182
1.864 1.864 1.926 1.894 1.895
1.321 1.321 1.281 1.192 1.25
0.967 1.029 0.951 0.853 0.909
0.756 0.821 0.756 0.719 0.7
http://ppt.cc/dLK-
無聊查了一下一些近期手排車齒比
(反而208官網沒寫齒比規格查不太到..)
現在都是四五檔越做越小
都不是很線性,省油取向
不過不是得到魚就是熊掌
高轉巡航順暢積碳少
低轉巡航省油安靜
各有好處..
※ 引述《boymike (林麥可)》之銘言:
推 blackballoon:常開高速公路的話要注意一下 5MT的齒比 06/12 05:48
→ blackballoon:根據網路上查到的資料 120km/h @ 3450 rpm 06/12 05:49
→ blackballoon:長時間巡航其實開起來有點辛苦 06/12 05:49
→ blackballoon:之前為了趕路開 308cc VTi, 120km/h @ 3700rpm 06/12 05:50
→ blackballoon:開在130km/h就已經4000rpm左右, 實在不是太輕鬆 06/12 05:51
→ blackballoon:高速油耗也不怎麼漂亮 06/12 05:52
→ DYE:5MT絕大多數都有這樣的問題 就是巡航轉速太高 06/12 06:19
→ DYE:檔位數是很現實的 想要起步輕鬆 又要換檔順暢 06/12 06:22
→ DYE:一檔的減速比不能太小 檔與檔的齒比差異不能過大 06/12 06:22
→ DYE:一般日常用的小車極速約 200km/hr / 6000rpm (五檔) 06/12 06:24
→ DYE:120就是3600了 06/12 06:26
→ DYE:要是把五檔改成超比檔 那前面四檔的齒比差就會過大 06/12 06:29
→ DYE:換檔就要超微拉轉 就較不平順 06/12 06:29
→ DYE:這是市售5MT油耗被傳統AT追上的主因 06/12 06:32
推 limpgj94:同為MK5 TDI 看來看去百萬左右的車款換了也沒升級感 06/12 08:23
→ limpgj94:不如把車子好好整理一下 再開幾年 等到結婚生小孩再來換 06/12 08:23
→ limpgj94:清了噴油嘴換上SAVER+ 高速都1公升20KM以上 速限+9巡航 06/12 08:28
推 oushiza:還有嘉年華st! 台灣有進口嗎? 06/12 08:41
推 wolves0117:推D大專業解說 順便偷推WRX 好讚啊~ 06/12 08:54
→ boymike:120km@3450rpm好辛苦@@ limpgj94大 你說到我心坎裡了 06/12 08:58
→ boymike:因為我mk5 tdi有改一些東西 去試乘上述車種 都...不習慣 06/12 08:59
→ boymike:路感有些差異 06/12 08:59
推 nen:我C2載雙胞胎都已經四歲了 對車有愛就會覺得剛剛好 XD 06/12 09:17
推 hydeless:我覺得真的要找手排車,一定要包含二手車市場了,畢竟在 06/12 09:43
→ hydeless:DSG當道的年代,根本沒有多少車可以選 06/12 09:43
推 QKei:手排車真的跟寶一樣 想買越來越難摟 06/12 10:41
→ boymike:2手市場 我想到的是 118d mt, focus tdci 6mt 06/12 10:43
→ DYE:我有台老5MT的車 原本是100kph/3000rpm 06/12 10:47
→ DYE:改了四五檔的齒比 又改了終傳 勉強才改到100kph/2500轉 06/12 10:48
→ DYE:如果低轉扭力還可以的車 改改終傳可以解決巡航轉速過高的問題 06/12 10:49
推 bobelton:508 1.6柴油2手改手排 06/12 12:44
→ zeta:508改手排有這麼容易? 06/12 15:57
→ zeta:結論:Golf繼續開,存錢等馬丁頭Mondeo(蓋章) 06/12 16:03
→ DYE:柴油機的手排箱 一般是不容易援用同廠汽油機的手排箱 06/12 16:03
→ DYE:扭力大得多 一般飛輪跟離合器的直徑較大 06/12 16:04
→ DYE:還有就算裝上了 用汽油機變速箱的齒比上路會也極痛苦 06/12 16:05
→ boymike:zeta大大 馬丁頭沒手排 XDy 06/12 16:29
推 Mariah:小孩會走路的話,雙門車很方便,還不怕他們亂開門 06/12 17:03
推 yenyichi:我6mt都嫌高速轉速太高 3000cc 100km/hr 還要2400rpm 06/12 19:47
→ DYE:我的6MT 100kph/2100RPM 06/12 21:31
推 benlu:感謝各位大大的解說 我現在了解為什麼DSG是七速了XD 06/12 21:50
→ pussycat2009:前陣子有同學牽208 GTi... 06/13 01:08
→ pussycat2009:評價不錯 06/13 01:08
推 AdPiG:DSG的7速就是巡航檔阿.. 06/13 01:57
推 KenBlock:我覺得可以單五檔齒比做小一點來巡航省油,畢竟開快用不到 06/13 14:31
→ DYE:手排箱 巡航檔的齒比的設定 還是有些要兼顧的事 06/13 14:53
→ DYE:至少巡航檔在兩三千轉的時候 踩油門不要太深還能夠得到加速 06/13 14:54
→ DYE:小渦輪車這轉速域扭力已經可以了 所以巡航檔減速齒比可以小點 06/13 14:55
→ DYE:所以近期的小渦輪車 在高速巡航的油耗還不錯 06/13 14:55
→ DYE:但是中小排氣量NA車 在這轉速扭力不怎麼樣 06/13 14:56
→ DYE:巡航中 遇到慢車 稍微慢下來 這時再加速還要降檔也不好開 06/13 14:57
→ DYE:或是你要開快點的時候 四檔還要拉到四五千轉才能上五檔 06/13 14:58
→ DYE:這樣設定開起來都蠻難受的 06/13 14:58
→ DYE:為啥傳統的自排車 各檔齒比差可以比較疏 甚至4AT還在用 06/13 15:00
→ DYE:最主要就是有個扭力轉換器 就是那油壓的耦合器 06/13 15:00
→ DYE:當扭力轉換器的輸入軸(曲軸端)跟輸出軸(變速箱端)有轉速差 06/13 15:01
→ DYE:輸出的扭力能比輸入的大 所以高檔位小減速比還能拖上去 06/13 15:02
→ DYE:但是手排箱是離合器 就沒這能力 所以引擎的低轉扭力蠻重要 06/13 15:03
→ DYE:所以五檔的齒比想做小 最主要就是我前文提到的低轉扭力 06/13 15:04
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