Tesla在挪威與車主的紛爭落幕了 - 汽車

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By Damian
at 2016-12-12T21:50

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大約在一年多以前,一群挪威的Tesla車主不滿他們買到的Tesla Model S狂暴模式

不夠快,於是向Tesla提出了集體訴訟。這些車主說他們的P85D馬力根本沒有Tesla

宣稱的有691hp,這影響到了它的加速性能,所以聯合了一百多位車主提出告訴。

經過了將近兩年後,這些車主們與Tesla達成了和解。


Tesla的說法是他們在官網上宣稱的0-100加速只需3.3秒甚至是被低估的,實際上

有第三方測得的數據是3.1秒。

這些車主不滿的原因是Tesla官網寫了P85D具備了前224hp、後467hp的馬達動力

加起來有691hp,但實際上把車拉到馬力機上面去測只有560hp左右

而Tesla對此的解釋是馬達動力必須考慮到電力系統的分配與電池的特性,並不能像

燃油引擎那樣相加(這是真的,土豪哥Let's talk about cars yo有一集有提到)

這件事情的影響就是從此以後Tesla的官網都把馬達動力規格都刪掉了,只提加速成績

所以現在在Tesla官網上都看不到他們用的馬達動力有多少了。


這些提出告訴的車主們(總共有132位車主提告,但挪威有超過1200位車主,看來也是很多

車主們不認同他們提告)最後與Tesla達成和解,Tesla會提供每位車主相當於7700元美金

的現金或是讓他們選擇一些車輛的升級包,例如解鎖狂暴模式、一組新的輪圈、

或是Tesla商店折扣。


Tesla真的還蠻大方的,就因為理解上的差異而不是車子瑕疵就對車主做出賠償

有些傳統車商製造的車真的有瑕疵被抓到了,也大都是只負責修車召回了事

很難看到車商會給車主金錢上的賠償。

Tesla這次花錢了事了,不過也算是又再打了一次廣告做公關

就算真實馬力測得是560hp,一台接近兩噸重的大型車0-100加速只需3.1秒也是很嚇人的

更別說現在最新的P100D已經有人測得了2.4秒的誇張成績


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原文連結:
https://goo.gl/depOaa

原文內容:
Tesla finally settles with disgruntled Model S P85D owners in Norway,
offers cash or upgrades

After almost two years, it looks like the disagreement between Tesla
Model S P85D owners in Norway and the electric automaker over the
representation of the power output of the vehicle is now officially over.
The issue moved from consumer protection agencies to the court and it has
now been resolved out of court after Tesla agreed to partly refund the
owners.

As we previously reported, the issue revolved around the way Tesla was
listing the power of its motors for the Model S P85D, which has two
motors. When first introducing the vehicle, Tesla was marketing the
vehicle as having a combined motor output of 691 hp (467 in the back and
224 in the front).

While those are indeed the correct outputs of each motor, the vehicle was
never able to achieve those numbers due to several other limitations than
only the combined potential output of the motors, like the battery.

Tesla claimed that they always made it clear that the numbers were for
the motors and not the vehicle itself, but some owners felt deceived.

Earlier this year, the Consumer Disputes Commission asked the automaker
to pay 50,000 Norwegian Krones (~$6,000 USD) to each Model S P85D owners.

Following the verdict, a Tesla spokesperson sent us the following
statement:

“Testing done by Tesla and independent third parties has demonstrated
that the Model S P85D’s acceleration and motor power numbers have always
been accurate, even understated. With respect to acceleration, Tesla
described the P85D as having a 0-100 kph time of 3.3 seconds, and Motor
Trend and others actually achieved a time of 3.1 seconds. Similarly, the
motor power numbers used by Tesla were legally required and confirmed as
accurate by European regulatory authorities. Based on this information,
the Consumer Council previously resolved these issues in Tesla’s favor.
Tesla will be reviewing the decision by the Consumer Disputes Commission
to better understand the conclusion that it reached.”

The company later disputed the decision and the matter was going to court
today, but a settlement was reached at the last minute yesterday,
according to local paper Dagens Naeringliv.

Owners were asking for 129,700 Norwegian Krones, which represent the
difference between the Model S 85D and the P85D at the time. The idea
being that those owners would have chosen the former if the power output
difference would have been more clearly defined. Under the terms of the
settlement, Tesla only offers 65,000 krones ($7,700 USD) to each owner or
the option to choose between several other packages, including a ‘
Ludicrous battery upgrade’, a new set of wheels, and Tesla store credits.

DN reports that “most of the 132 Tesla owners” who filed the suit have
agreed to the settlement – though there are about 1,200 Model S P85D
registered in Norway.


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All Comments

Genevieve avatar
By Genevieve
at 2016-12-13T22:51
太大方不見得是好事,從另一個角度來解讀是鼓勵奧客行為
Ethan avatar
By Ethan
at 2016-12-18T02:06
因為我們是顧客 當然要鼓勵公司大方
Ina avatar
By Ina
at 2016-12-22T12:09
解鎖狂暴模式 XD
Caroline avatar
By Caroline
at 2016-12-26T10:40
其實這蠻好的 因為電動車牌照稅由馬力看 如果馬力實
測較小 之後沒優惠免稅後 稅也是較少
Olive avatar
By Olive
at 2016-12-31T03:27
(如果稅金取決於實測它的馬力
Victoria avatar
By Victoria
at 2017-01-04T03:33
挪威人口似乎也才五百多萬,比台北新北加起來還少,tesla就
賣了一千多輛。不知道台灣能賣多少?
Ina avatar
By Ina
at 2017-01-09T03:03
汽油車還不是上馬力機後都變低
Hedda avatar
By Hedda
at 2017-01-10T07:27
其他一千位車主知道了會不會很肚爛? 鼓勵集體訴訟啊
Ula avatar
By Ula
at 2017-01-14T21:29
真是不錯的國家 在台灣 車廠講什麼你都得吞下去
Noah avatar
By Noah
at 2017-01-19T05:43
例如前擋玻璃破裂事件
Ula avatar
By Ula
at 2017-01-22T19:19
上馬力機 每台汽油車都不準啊
Anthony avatar
By Anthony
at 2017-01-23T06:26
它在台灣上市後沒公布過馬力啊 如果未來需要繳稅 政
Daph Bay avatar
By Daph Bay
at 2017-01-26T14:01
府總要有個數據來源?
Adele avatar
By Adele
at 2017-01-27T16:00
那就公布值改成560就好了 會買的人還是會買 不買的也是一樣
為什麼要執著691
Oscar avatar
By Oscar
at 2017-01-30T21:23
就單純修理車商華而不實的廣告文宣啊 自動駕駛不是也乖
乖修正成輔助駕駛了嗎 tesla愛搞小聰明被打臉了
Michael avatar
By Michael
at 2017-02-04T08:02
既然特斯拉標榜的是非傳統的車廠 是個創新的
那落實輪上馬力公布 也是該做的方向
Zenobia avatar
By Zenobia
at 2017-02-04T21:11
傳統車廠也該朝這方向改進
一堆嘴砲馬力 到底有什麼意思
Gilbert avatar
By Gilbert
at 2017-02-04T22:34
話說回來 "一般"各種使用的電動機 標的功率 是耗能
Zanna avatar
By Zanna
at 2017-02-07T19:51
人人都希望知道買的東西能用到多少
Andy avatar
By Andy
at 2017-02-11T11:47
你隨便買個米 也希望知道是淨重不是毛重
Ida avatar
By Ida
at 2017-02-13T07:58
公布一些混沌不清的資訊 模糊消費者 並不是所有消費者都懂
Heather avatar
By Heather
at 2017-02-15T02:31
要是一個公司 該公布消費者重視的資訊 錯了嗎
Hedy avatar
By Hedy
at 2017-02-16T22:00
就我覺得 每個車廠都應該公布輪上馬力 或是中間值
Elizabeth avatar
By Elizabeth
at 2017-02-20T21:45
想知道但它不公布1.你可以不買抵制它2.參考民間實測
數據3.更正中文名稱沒什麼不妥 犯錯懂得改 才是正確
Puput avatar
By Puput
at 2017-02-22T02:04
的處世之道
Leila avatar
By Leila
at 2017-02-23T10:27
這很理性嚴謹呀~對提告車主和tesla皆然,是差不多先生和
Dora avatar
By Dora
at 2017-02-25T15:18
理盲濫情阿Q人士與擅利用此風氣的廠商太多,才把原本就正
Olga avatar
By Olga
at 2017-03-02T13:54
常的做事態度和案例,反而變成不正常、特例
Kumar avatar
By Kumar
at 2017-03-04T03:01
奧客會把車真的拿去馬力機跑實測?哈哈
Charlotte avatar
By Charlotte
at 2017-03-06T08:00
廠商敢寫,就不能怕被嚴謹的消費者挑戰,除非這廠商本身
Olga avatar
By Olga
at 2017-03-06T14:19
就不嚴謹且愛順手利用該國的民情風氣與媒體帶風向裝正派
然後把簡單的理性嚴謹度問題弄得很濫情複雜,那才是糟
Hedy avatar
By Hedy
at 2017-03-09T22:50
哪國人不用說,反正看到一個殺人魔就酸人家監獄太優質、
Christine avatar
By Christine
at 2017-03-11T22:03
社福與法律太沒競爭力,車市讓不嚴謹的廠商坐大的就是了
Linda avatar
By Linda
at 2017-03-16T21:43
在此案例上,不懂理性嚴謹,只會酸人家愛計較、奧客、自
以為最有美德最大方最先進,當然就變「正常」了
Victoria avatar
By Victoria
at 2017-03-20T14:02
阿不就和寬頻的廣告一樣 看的到吃不到 要依照當下用戶端
Agatha avatar
By Agatha
at 2017-03-21T18:17
來決定流量 這種事情早就屢見不鮮了吧~不需要護航
Callum avatar
By Callum
at 2017-03-21T22:36
一般來說 電動機的最大功率 是指可承受的電壓下的最大電流
Selena avatar
By Selena
at 2017-03-24T00:38
並不是他的輸出的功率
電壓跟電流的乘積
David avatar
By David
at 2017-03-24T05:50
可以短時間的超負載 但是會發熱 累積熱量
Daph Bay avatar
By Daph Bay
at 2017-03-27T18:06
大多數來說 耗用的功率跟輸出是成正比的
Carol avatar
By Carol
at 2017-03-30T00:02
但是消費者想知道的是能輸出多少功率 不是最大耗用多少功率
Donna avatar
By Donna
at 2017-04-02T15:41
沒參加訴訟就表示不認同?真是神邏輯
Oliver avatar
By Oliver
at 2017-04-07T04:19
輪上輸出?引擎輸出?
Lydia avatar
By Lydia
at 2017-04-09T14:02
被美國人帶壞了....
Quanna avatar
By Quanna
at 2017-04-14T01:54
馬力是什麼很多人應該也搞不懂吧
Kyle avatar
By Kyle
at 2017-04-15T20:46
電機有額定功率跟最大功率,整車綜效輸出功率不可能
Suhail Hany avatar
By Suhail Hany
at 2017-04-16T11:29
是所有電機最大功率加總
Quintina avatar
By Quintina
at 2017-04-18T15:29
有吵有糖吃XD
Lydia avatar
By Lydia
at 2017-04-19T16:34
輸入691匹電能,輸出560匹動能,有81趴耶
Harry avatar
By Harry
at 2017-04-23T22:07
Tessa 重新定義馬力 汽油車怎麼辦?

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