TOYOTA bZ4X 顧客關懷活動 - Toyota
By Kelly
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今天也是信手拈來跟這位版友一樣查了能源局
明明就有車廠用WLTP標示
端看原廠選擇而已
然後剛好看到社團管理員說大家“都”用NEDC
https://i.imgur.com/GIGClVi.jpg
就貼了原po類似的能源局截圖說BMW不是
接著這位四處戰社團成員的管理員就貼了一張IONIQ5 廣告也是NEDC的截圖
我只是問了句:如果說“都”是的話,不是應該提出全部車廠都用NEDC嗎?
然後
就沒有然後了
因為馬上被踢出社團 XD
https://i.imgur.com/ERgQlxx.jpg
莫名其妙
說歡迎大家熱烈討論結果貼出資料就踢人
我一句BZ的壞話都沒講
自己邏輯不通又玻璃心還搶開社團幹嘛
之前還捏造我說BZ充電很慢一樣被我拿證據打臉才道歉
那時說我明著說其他車充得快就是暗說BZ充得慢,這邏輯...
那他之前貼ioniq5 被火災波及的照片開始小劇場說從內部燒起來,貼了一句“充電很快
那台?” ,是也在說BZ慢嗎?
被他踢的人也不少,他之前說只要他不爽就是違反版規 科科
今天也是看到其他版友只是說實話就被踢
然後超愛像鸚鵡一樣複製社員的話回應對方
被叫鸚鵡先生也踢人
超鬧XD
※ 引述《chandler0227 (錢德勒)》之銘言:
: 電動車能源效率標示核發月資料
: https://reurl.cc/A7mqWY
: 能源局有給NEDC和WLTP測試標準,看車廠(代理商)選用哪種方法
: https://i.imgur.com/dnjxgqi.jpg
: https://i.imgur.com/cSFR5JS.jpg
: https://i.imgur.com/OfnJvx0.jpg
: https://i.imgur.com/WRoikyn.jpg
: https://i.imgur.com/7KPR5CW.jpg
: 廠牌後面沒有括號(註一)就是用NEDC行車型態
: 其實除了Tesla和BMW兩家,絕大多數廠牌都用NEDC
: 有趣的是居然有HONDA e和Pugeot e2008
: 反而找不到EV6數據(EV6 Air LR國外WLTP標528,台灣官網標560也很神奇)
: 然後有人眼尖一點會覺得BMW iX測試結果怎麼跟官網數字兜不攏
: 能源局測試:xDrive40續航334、xDrive50續航501
: https://i.imgur.com/hqmb2tx.jpg
: 官網標示:xDrive40續航425、xDrive50續航630
: https://i.imgur.com/HZRYtoq.jpg
: https://i.imgur.com/ufk38lh.jpg
: 兩者差了100公里,是不是廣告不實?
: 當然也不是啊XD
: 因為2月iX又用電動小貨車、小客貨兩用車及小客車做測試 (注意參考車重變化)
: https://i.imgur.com/mhdwj6m.jpg
: 至於參考車重計算方式,這裡有簡單說明
: https://auto.itri.org.tw/energy_efficiency_desc.aspx
: https://i.imgur.com/8vNI92f.jpg
: 但我還是不懂為啥iX用小貨車算法,參考車重可以少100多公斤就是了
: ※ 引述《alex0203cool (Alex)》之銘言:
: : 有些人在爭論bZ4X"廣告不實"告得成告不成
: : 首先要確定"廣告不實"這四個字是不是事實
: : https://youtu.be/xNUF5KxRfQ0?t=25 這是碩果僅存的官方廣告
: : 25秒處截圖 https://i.imgur.com/nlajbI7.jpg 下方說依據NEDC 實驗室數據
: : 官網也說這是NEDC 也要參閱經濟部能源局資料 https://i.imgur.com/drNUfBR.jpg
: : 這是能源局5月核發的資料 https://i.imgur.com/dTwMLsw.jpg
: : 我不是河粉河黑 我只是嘲笑bZ4X的其中一員
: : 用NEDC來吹的確是很醜的行為 但要說他不實/誤導 好像也不太成立
: : 不論油車電車 耗能本就因人而異
: : 倒不如藉由這則實例 從政策面建立標準規範
: : 看要WLTP或最嚴格的EPA都好 統一里程標示 也免去大家在那查來查去
--
明明就有車廠用WLTP標示
端看原廠選擇而已
然後剛好看到社團管理員說大家“都”用NEDC
https://i.imgur.com/GIGClVi.jpg
就貼了原po類似的能源局截圖說BMW不是
接著這位四處戰社團成員的管理員就貼了一張IONIQ5 廣告也是NEDC的截圖
我只是問了句:如果說“都”是的話,不是應該提出全部車廠都用NEDC嗎?
然後
就沒有然後了
因為馬上被踢出社團 XD
https://i.imgur.com/ERgQlxx.jpg
莫名其妙
說歡迎大家熱烈討論結果貼出資料就踢人
我一句BZ的壞話都沒講
自己邏輯不通又玻璃心還搶開社團幹嘛
之前還捏造我說BZ充電很慢一樣被我拿證據打臉才道歉
那時說我明著說其他車充得快就是暗說BZ充得慢,這邏輯...
那他之前貼ioniq5 被火災波及的照片開始小劇場說從內部燒起來,貼了一句“充電很快
那台?” ,是也在說BZ慢嗎?
被他踢的人也不少,他之前說只要他不爽就是違反版規 科科
今天也是看到其他版友只是說實話就被踢
然後超愛像鸚鵡一樣複製社員的話回應對方
被叫鸚鵡先生也踢人
超鬧XD
※ 引述《chandler0227 (錢德勒)》之銘言:
: 電動車能源效率標示核發月資料
: https://reurl.cc/A7mqWY
: 能源局有給NEDC和WLTP測試標準,看車廠(代理商)選用哪種方法
: https://i.imgur.com/dnjxgqi.jpg
: https://i.imgur.com/cSFR5JS.jpg
: https://i.imgur.com/OfnJvx0.jpg
: https://i.imgur.com/WRoikyn.jpg
: https://i.imgur.com/7KPR5CW.jpg
: 廠牌後面沒有括號(註一)就是用NEDC行車型態
: 其實除了Tesla和BMW兩家,絕大多數廠牌都用NEDC
: 有趣的是居然有HONDA e和Pugeot e2008
: 反而找不到EV6數據(EV6 Air LR國外WLTP標528,台灣官網標560也很神奇)
: 然後有人眼尖一點會覺得BMW iX測試結果怎麼跟官網數字兜不攏
: 能源局測試:xDrive40續航334、xDrive50續航501
: https://i.imgur.com/hqmb2tx.jpg
: 官網標示:xDrive40續航425、xDrive50續航630
: https://i.imgur.com/HZRYtoq.jpg
: https://i.imgur.com/ufk38lh.jpg
: 兩者差了100公里,是不是廣告不實?
: 當然也不是啊XD
: 因為2月iX又用電動小貨車、小客貨兩用車及小客車做測試 (注意參考車重變化)
: https://i.imgur.com/mhdwj6m.jpg
: 至於參考車重計算方式,這裡有簡單說明
: https://auto.itri.org.tw/energy_efficiency_desc.aspx
: https://i.imgur.com/8vNI92f.jpg
: 但我還是不懂為啥iX用小貨車算法,參考車重可以少100多公斤就是了
: ※ 引述《alex0203cool (Alex)》之銘言:
: : 有些人在爭論bZ4X"廣告不實"告得成告不成
: : 首先要確定"廣告不實"這四個字是不是事實
: : https://youtu.be/xNUF5KxRfQ0?t=25 這是碩果僅存的官方廣告
: : 官網也說這是NEDC 也要參閱經濟部能源局資料 https://i.imgur.com/drNUfBR.jpg
: : 這是能源局5月核發的資料 https://i.imgur.com/dTwMLsw.jpg
: : 我不是河粉河黑 我只是嘲笑bZ4X的其中一員
: : 用NEDC來吹的確是很醜的行為 但要說他不實/誤導 好像也不太成立
: : 不論油車電車 耗能本就因人而異
: : 倒不如藉由這則實例 從政策面建立標準規範
: : 看要WLTP或最嚴格的EPA都好 統一里程標示 也免去大家在那查來查去
--
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