兩輪上國道對四輪的影響? - 汽車
By Anonymous
at 2020-01-09T01:13
at 2020-01-09T01:13
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※ 引述《MunezSu (Munez)》之銘言:
: 其實我覺得重機上國道對目前國道交通的影響不大
: 目前快速道路跟國道也禁止”道路共享”
: 目前紅黃牌數量也不大
: 所以對於目前汽車用路人”理論上來說影響不大”
: 畢竟只要把重機當作汽車就行了
: 而為什麼現在重機不能上國道?
: 我想主要是因為支持的人不多
: 而政府又非常”害怕改變”
說真的啦~重機的角色定位跟上不上國道
問題的根源就是政府裡跟交通有關的官員阿
當初重機要不要上快速道路,有做過科學調查嘛? 沒有阿
插照相機跟區間測速合理性,有做過科學調查嘛? 沒有阿
汽車可以行駛蘇花改新南迴,有做過科學調查嘛? 沒有阿
政府的交通政策怎麼設計,開不開放、禁不禁止,都是隨官員爽
回到重機(或兩輪上國道),道理一樣
當初開放快速道路也是一堆人喊著血流成河撞死不賠
結果10年過去了,這期間交通部什麼都沒做
開車的也沒有因為重機也能上快速就怕到不敢開
所以現在的擔憂是在...難道從速限90變成110就會出事?
況且現階段立法也只讓紅牌上,紅牌總數也不過小客車的1%
還另外加了一堆但書:
1.年滿21歲
2.需持有重機駕照1年+小客車駕照
3.禁止雙載
4.需配戴全罩或是3/4安全帽
5.禁止同道併駛
6.紅牌重機(>550cc)
所以能上國道的重機(或未來能上的二輪),基本上都會(能)開車好嗎
如果說重機騎士素行不良不能上國道,那為什麼換成開車就合理了
而且還需要持有重機駕照,上路一年才能上國道,光這點就比汽車上國道還嚴格了
一堆三寶考完駕照就開車上國道你們都不擔心了,是不是
很多人說重機很愛違規很容易死,但從之前重機上國道的檢核報告來看
https://i.imgur.com/EYVfuPR.png
國三甲 Q4基本上重機/小客車都沒有死亡事故
黃牌重機時隔5個月才又發生1起A2事故
這一年來,黃牌重機 2起 A2
紅牌重機 0起 A2
小客車 13起 A2
https://i.imgur.com/4DkE1nx.png
台64 Q4基本上重機/小客車都沒有死亡事故
黃牌重機Q4沒有任何事故
紅牌重機時隔1個月,又1起A2
這一年來,黃牌重機 5起 A2
紅牌重機 7起 A2
小客車 52起 A2
說好的血流成河好像並沒有發生
https://i.imgur.com/YohoVx8.png
違規取締的部份,整年來說
黃牌21起/紅牌21起/小客車4507起
黃牌 紅牌 小客車
超速20↓ 0 0 0
超速40↓ 0 2 98
超速60↓ 0 1 9
使用路肩 0 9 334
違規超車 7 4 12
同道併駛 0 0 2
不保持車距 0 0 16
看起來重機也沒特別愛飆,使用路肩也還好
令人意外,鑽車縫(併駛)反而是小客車2起
然後小客車的違規大宗是「未依標線指示行車」2180起
其次是不打方向燈... 酒駕5起、蛇行2起、倒車1起
重機的違規大宗,黃牌是違規超車,紅牌是使用路肩
要說水準嘛...
總言之啦~我覺得台灣要不要開放不是科學問題,是政治問題
要不然根據上述所說,開車跟想重機上國道的根本重疊得很
五十步笑百步囉
--
對於重機上國道,交通部這樣說: https://i.imgur.com/q1zsmXs.jpg
看留言猜事故車輛: https://i.imgur.com/lqbbZzF.jpg
重機的終極防衛駕駛: https://youtu.be/mIs8EzWw3ow
when you're on your bike, you're on your own
--
: 其實我覺得重機上國道對目前國道交通的影響不大
: 目前快速道路跟國道也禁止”道路共享”
: 目前紅黃牌數量也不大
: 所以對於目前汽車用路人”理論上來說影響不大”
: 畢竟只要把重機當作汽車就行了
: 而為什麼現在重機不能上國道?
: 我想主要是因為支持的人不多
: 而政府又非常”害怕改變”
說真的啦~重機的角色定位跟上不上國道
問題的根源就是政府裡跟交通有關的官員阿
當初重機要不要上快速道路,有做過科學調查嘛? 沒有阿
插照相機跟區間測速合理性,有做過科學調查嘛? 沒有阿
汽車可以行駛蘇花改新南迴,有做過科學調查嘛? 沒有阿
政府的交通政策怎麼設計,開不開放、禁不禁止,都是隨官員爽
回到重機(或兩輪上國道),道理一樣
當初開放快速道路也是一堆人喊著血流成河撞死不賠
結果10年過去了,這期間交通部什麼都沒做
開車的也沒有因為重機也能上快速就怕到不敢開
所以現在的擔憂是在...難道從速限90變成110就會出事?
況且現階段立法也只讓紅牌上,紅牌總數也不過小客車的1%
還另外加了一堆但書:
1.年滿21歲
2.需持有重機駕照1年+小客車駕照
3.禁止雙載
4.需配戴全罩或是3/4安全帽
5.禁止同道併駛
6.紅牌重機(>550cc)
所以能上國道的重機(或未來能上的二輪),基本上都會(能)開車好嗎
如果說重機騎士素行不良不能上國道,那為什麼換成開車就合理了
而且還需要持有重機駕照,上路一年才能上國道,光這點就比汽車上國道還嚴格了
一堆三寶考完駕照就開車上國道你們都不擔心了,是不是
很多人說重機很愛違規很容易死,但從之前重機上國道的檢核報告來看
https://i.imgur.com/EYVfuPR.png
國三甲 Q4基本上重機/小客車都沒有死亡事故
黃牌重機時隔5個月才又發生1起A2事故
這一年來,黃牌重機 2起 A2
紅牌重機 0起 A2
小客車 13起 A2
https://i.imgur.com/4DkE1nx.png
台64 Q4基本上重機/小客車都沒有死亡事故
黃牌重機Q4沒有任何事故
紅牌重機時隔1個月,又1起A2
這一年來,黃牌重機 5起 A2
紅牌重機 7起 A2
小客車 52起 A2
說好的血流成河好像並沒有發生
https://i.imgur.com/YohoVx8.png
違規取締的部份,整年來說
黃牌21起/紅牌21起/小客車4507起
黃牌 紅牌 小客車
超速20↓ 0 0 0
超速40↓ 0 2 98
超速60↓ 0 1 9
使用路肩 0 9 334
違規超車 7 4 12
同道併駛 0 0 2
不保持車距 0 0 16
看起來重機也沒特別愛飆,使用路肩也還好
令人意外,鑽車縫(併駛)反而是小客車2起
然後小客車的違規大宗是「未依標線指示行車」2180起
其次是不打方向燈... 酒駕5起、蛇行2起、倒車1起
重機的違規大宗,黃牌是違規超車,紅牌是使用路肩
要說水準嘛...
總言之啦~我覺得台灣要不要開放不是科學問題,是政治問題
要不然根據上述所說,開車跟想重機上國道的根本重疊得很
五十步笑百步囉
--
對於重機上國道,交通部這樣說: https://i.imgur.com/q1zsmXs.jpg
看留言猜事故車輛: https://i.imgur.com/lqbbZzF.jpg
重機的終極防衛駕駛: https://youtu.be/mIs8EzWw3ow
when you're on your bike, you're on your own
--
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