(再也不買中古車的心得)易先生的話 - 價格

By Yuri
at 2020-07-19T11:44
at 2020-07-19T11:44
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※ 引述《saitou68201 (漂泊不定)》之銘言:
: 對於車商終端價較便宜的售價賣,在比較懂一點的人眼裡意味著甚麼,我想可能是很清楚
: 的,但其他人就未必
: 而一般來說,車行願意以「偏向便宜」的售價,把車賣掉,或是以更便宜的,另一種叫做
: 「同行互盤」的價格把手邊這台車出掉,通常意味著車行認為這車可能狀況一般,但整理
: 費工費時,就算整理完可以賣18萬也不划算。一是因為整體售價變高了,跟自售車的差距
: 拉得更大,有些人會開始嫌貴,反而未必好賣;二是所有的整備維修都要費工費時,對於
: 拼交易量的車行來說,他們有時會願意少賺個一兩萬,把車出掉就好
: 而售價拉高,會不會影響交易的意願呢?答案很明顯是會的
: 仔細去看車商與原PO的對話,會發現其實車商有兩台Mazda 3,08年的賣價高於20萬,但配
: 備實際上比較符合原PO的需求;而07年的這台價格低很多,配備也不合需求。但原PO在這
: 時候選了甚麼呢?
: 答案是,便宜的
說說自己經驗
我曾經買了一台中古車,當時鎖定老雙B
把網上所有關於老雙B的討論翻了個遍
新北到桃園,只要是有預算範圍內的雙B都去看
看到最後,很多車商看我看車的方式還誤以為我是同行來盤車的
我運氣也好,最後買到的車並沒有抽中籤王而是順順服役
五年內修繕項目只有三項
所以我沒有仇視二手車商的既定立場
我不懂的是為甚麼這個市場就不能透明一點
而要做到人人吐口水,整條討論串唯一提得出透明經營的就小施
全台灣多少二手車商?能拿出來打的就小施一個?
這個產業爛到無藥可救
你說的點我懂!
但是消費者並不是智障,在我看來這個問題解法很簡單
就像不動產交易一定需要一本不動產說明書
裡面要附上產權證明
要勾大小事項,有沒有漏水,有沒有損鄰,有沒有管理費未繳etcetc
為甚麼二手車不能有一個車況說明表
附上萊茵orSAVE認證
何時入手,全車鈑金,A柱B柱,引擎變速
你有檢查過就打勾,沒檢查就勾沒檢查
待修項目那些該勾的也勾一勾
保固哪些項目,該勾就勾,這有多難?
題外話,說到保固
https://i.imgur.com/yCThOQw.jpg
我相信這兩句話是這次爭議的關鍵
買方擔心有維修項目,業務用保固呼嚨過關
你也很清楚二手車商提出的保固是甚麼貨色
我買車時,跟所有車商說我不要你的保固
你直接折車價八千給我就好,沒有任何一間答應
這代表甚麼?(我買的是雙B不是國產車)
這代表車商提供雙B的保固連八千的價值都沒有
回到主題
拿出這張表附在合約中然後寫現況交車,
出問題沒有幾個正常買方會有意見
但是現在二手車商的做法就是含糊其辭
推薦買方買不適合他需求的車子
然後用根本沒價值的保固呼嚨可能的待修項目
出事了再來講一堆車商盤車 blah blah 的大道理
就是想賺資訊不對稱的超額利潤而已
你講再多這位業務的做法在行內很正常我認同
問題是整個二手車交易就是垃圾行業
你是說一個垃圾在垃圾堆中用垃圾手法很正常
恩.....
是這樣的意思嗎?
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: 對於車商終端價較便宜的售價賣,在比較懂一點的人眼裡意味著甚麼,我想可能是很清楚
: 的,但其他人就未必
: 而一般來說,車行願意以「偏向便宜」的售價,把車賣掉,或是以更便宜的,另一種叫做
: 「同行互盤」的價格把手邊這台車出掉,通常意味著車行認為這車可能狀況一般,但整理
: 費工費時,就算整理完可以賣18萬也不划算。一是因為整體售價變高了,跟自售車的差距
: 拉得更大,有些人會開始嫌貴,反而未必好賣;二是所有的整備維修都要費工費時,對於
: 拼交易量的車行來說,他們有時會願意少賺個一兩萬,把車出掉就好
: 而售價拉高,會不會影響交易的意願呢?答案很明顯是會的
: 仔細去看車商與原PO的對話,會發現其實車商有兩台Mazda 3,08年的賣價高於20萬,但配
: 備實際上比較符合原PO的需求;而07年的這台價格低很多,配備也不合需求。但原PO在這
: 時候選了甚麼呢?
: 答案是,便宜的
說說自己經驗
我曾經買了一台中古車,當時鎖定老雙B
把網上所有關於老雙B的討論翻了個遍
新北到桃園,只要是有預算範圍內的雙B都去看
看到最後,很多車商看我看車的方式還誤以為我是同行來盤車的
我運氣也好,最後買到的車並沒有抽中籤王而是順順服役
五年內修繕項目只有三項
所以我沒有仇視二手車商的既定立場
我不懂的是為甚麼這個市場就不能透明一點
而要做到人人吐口水,整條討論串唯一提得出透明經營的就小施
全台灣多少二手車商?能拿出來打的就小施一個?
這個產業爛到無藥可救
你說的點我懂!
但是消費者並不是智障,在我看來這個問題解法很簡單
就像不動產交易一定需要一本不動產說明書
裡面要附上產權證明
要勾大小事項,有沒有漏水,有沒有損鄰,有沒有管理費未繳etcetc
為甚麼二手車不能有一個車況說明表
附上萊茵orSAVE認證
何時入手,全車鈑金,A柱B柱,引擎變速
你有檢查過就打勾,沒檢查就勾沒檢查
待修項目那些該勾的也勾一勾
保固哪些項目,該勾就勾,這有多難?
題外話,說到保固
https://i.imgur.com/yCThOQw.jpg
我相信這兩句話是這次爭議的關鍵
買方擔心有維修項目,業務用保固呼嚨過關
你也很清楚二手車商提出的保固是甚麼貨色
我買車時,跟所有車商說我不要你的保固
你直接折車價八千給我就好,沒有任何一間答應
這代表甚麼?(我買的是雙B不是國產車)
這代表車商提供雙B的保固連八千的價值都沒有
回到主題
拿出這張表附在合約中然後寫現況交車,
出問題沒有幾個正常買方會有意見
但是現在二手車商的做法就是含糊其辭
推薦買方買不適合他需求的車子
然後用根本沒價值的保固呼嚨可能的待修項目
出事了再來講一堆車商盤車 blah blah 的大道理
就是想賺資訊不對稱的超額利潤而已
你講再多這位業務的做法在行內很正常我認同
問題是整個二手車交易就是垃圾行業
你是說一個垃圾在垃圾堆中用垃圾手法很正常
恩.....
是這樣的意思嗎?
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