嚴凱泰毀了全台灣機械系 - 汽車
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車板心得:
實在亂下標題,唯恐天下不亂,
民間部門不可能整個傷害一個產業,
勞動市場有供需,就像學校沒法訓練足夠人力,
民間補習班,新創,教科書,專業書,勞工薪水都會讓市場平衡,
唯一能傷害一整個產業能力的叫做"政府",民間沒那能力,
作者: zzahoward (Cheshire Cat) 看板: Tech_Job
標題: Re: [心得] 嚴凱泰毀了全台灣機械系
時間: Tue Jan 5 13:05:48 2021
這種結論太詭異了啦
我們先來思考一下汽車這個產業:
VW: 德意志納粹提供資金起頭的車廠
Toyota: 紡織業做到汽車業去,二戰得到政府支援專門做軍卡
Mitsubishi: 三菱重工衍伸出來的子公司,天上飛的地上爬的水裡游的打架用的都做
Mercedes: 當年其實也是元首愛用車
BMW: 戰機引擎起家,國家軍工業等級
Porsche: 二戰有名的虎式,國家軍工業
Honda: 這家比較有趣,做兩輪做一做弄成世界車廠之一
Fiat: 飛機做到四輪,也是國家級軍工業
SAAB: 飛機起家,國家級軍工業
GM: 國家軍火承包商之一,飛機引擎、坦克標案都有做
Ford: 消費級汽車的鼻祖
所以說真的,汽車業和政府掛勾似乎就是天經地義的事情,當然阿斗扶不起還是該下去
話說回來,以當年一戰二戰那種高強度壓力和資金投入的背景,和平常本來就不能比
戰時東西設計出來多數時候都是上場debug啦,用阿兵哥的命來當測試成本
汽車這產業,很明顯就是國家工業實力的綜合展現
台灣重工業起步得晚,錯過打仗瘋狂撒錢瘋狂製造的黃金期沒什麼基礎
90年代開始重工業也開始被多數民眾唾棄和排擠
所以汽車產業起不來真的是意料之中
回到Tesla要補助這件事情,個人2015年前後其實是在傳產相關公司
你的100億不知道是美金還台幣,假如美金當然會很有困難
台灣常態型國防預算這十年也才3000多億台幣,一直到2018年才破3500億
那假如100億的單位是台幣,笑死人你把Elon Musk當成乞丐了吧?
他2010~2018年靠自己就融資了140億美元,他會要你投資三億鎂就留下來?
大概是太喜歡台灣的空氣了吧
此外給你一個概念
Tesla第一座生產線工廠Fremont佔地為50萬平方米,換算大概為15.1萬坪
Elon Musk從一開始目標就是大量生產製造,所以他獵地絕對不是什麼小地方
日前TSMC上樑的3nm生產廠大概是1.5萬坪
以台灣工業用地來說,要找一個10萬坪的大概會經過一堆掮客和政客和居民過一手
人家NUMMI只花了42M鎂,而且基礎建設良好,人才濟濟
平均一坪大概八千多台幣 :)
台灣一坪大概要十幾二十萬吧XDDDDDD
我覺得要給謠言豪洨也要驗證一下數字,不然很難看
※ 引述《poem5566 (詩人五六)》之銘言:
: 如題,前陣子靠TESLA井噴一波,賺到一
: 點小錢。
: 後來追到一個舊文,當年台灣陳水扁應特
: 斯拉要求補助100億留下特斯拉,但同年馬
: 英九上台立刻推翻,將100億給他的好
: 兄弟嚴凱泰裕隆,這100億就這樣打水漂
: 了,只換得沒人有興趣的研究報告。
: 最後學店仔凱哥也怨老馬,認為老馬沒給
: 更多支援於電動車研發,再加大陸投資失
: 利終至氣鬱癌症復發,一命嗚呼。
: 韓國台灣兩倍人口搞了KIA跟現代,我們有
: 什麼?
: #幹*娘超短的陰莖
: #你他媽低能腦弱
: 附註一下要是有申請美國學校都知道大家
: 可以用USNEWS查排名,而我們嚴董的學
: 校連全國排名都不進,卻領導全台灣優秀
: 的機械系學生.....
: 可憐吶
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