國產標竿Hyundai Tucson - 汽車

Lydia avatar
By Lydia
at 2016-07-03T20:59

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這台被你說的這麼棒的神車,如果七月月銷量有超過CRV or X-trial 我就發100份雞排
請大家


沒有的話 請你上來回覆你這篇到底是不是業配文


引述《taiwan71924 (leave)》之銘言:
: http://www.buycartv.com/portal.php?mod=view&aid=4289
: 我知道很多人不喜歡韓國車,但建議你不妨去試看看它「全新改款的Hyundai Tucson」

: 記住它回饋給你的每一個感受,然後把這些感覺記憶起來,當成您未來買車的標竿,
: 再去試看看你支持的品牌所推出的產品,你就會知道Hyundai Tucson的價值在那裡,
: 為什麼韓國車可以進步這麼多!
: 汽車是人類快速移動到目的地最直接的交通工具,移動的過程也許你的要求
: 是更大的DVD螢幕、舒服的皮椅、又或者是七彩霓虹燈的內裝氣氛,但這些特色
: 很快就膩了,很快就不新鮮了!唯一你永遠要在車上不斷感受的,就是
: 機械回饋給你的感受,引擎、變速箱、底盤、煞車等等,移動過程中的每一分每一秒
: 車上的乘員不斷地吸收,它可能會讓你暈車、讓你腰酸背痛。
: 為什麼我一直強調機械回饋,因為音響音質未達要求很好改善、DVD螢幕花錢就有了
: 像夜店一樣的車室氣氛更簡單。但機械結構要靠(後天)改善是最花錢的
: 這我稱它為一輛車的本質,為什麼Hyundai Tucson要在紐伯林繞這麼多圈進行測試
: 一定有它的道理。
: 可能以後韓國車,也會成為台灣的神車之一
: 現在已經有他在抖了
: 休旅車雖然還是rav4名列前茅
: 但我相信不久現代韓國休旅車,還有現代的柴油休旅車
: 將會稱霸車壇(當然還是TOYOTA第一,現代第二,那志傑?)
: 最近韓國的動作真的是佛心來的,這台之前不是說後座椅子太硬
: 原廠還主動召回,這什麼鬼阿
: 台灣哪間主動召回的?這服務真是太好了
: 通常車廠都是能座就好了阿
: 或是
: 啊!你這個生鏽是個案

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All Comments

Zenobia avatar
By Zenobia
at 2016-07-05T04:33
佔位子
Jacky avatar
By Jacky
at 2016-07-07T23:52
七月的不是已出來了
Hardy avatar
By Hardy
at 2016-07-11T03:21
樓上現在才七月初
Adele avatar
By Adele
at 2016-07-12T06:54
7月才過3天耶
Charlotte avatar
By Charlotte
at 2016-07-16T12:43
要賣好很難
Xanthe avatar
By Xanthe
at 2016-07-17T00:38
想吃但是太難了呵
Linda avatar
By Linda
at 2016-07-17T23:57
我先報名
Odelette avatar
By Odelette
at 2016-07-22T10:55
真的賭這麼大喔~ 贏x-trial是有可能的說
Hedwig avatar
By Hedwig
at 2016-07-24T09:26
國產suv前三不都差不多
Madame avatar
By Madame
at 2016-07-24T22:23
先拉板凳來坐
Wallis avatar
By Wallis
at 2016-07-28T16:10
thanks, 我要吃雞排
Irma avatar
By Irma
at 2016-08-02T03:29
應該很難吧哈哈
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By Tristan Cohan
at 2016-08-04T05:36
Ya
Quintina avatar
By Quintina
at 2016-08-08T04:06
不可能啦 能贏U6就要放鞭炮了
Poppy avatar
By Poppy
at 2016-08-09T21:41
5月有贏U6耶
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By Agnes
at 2016-08-13T20:48
先卡位
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By Frederic
at 2016-08-17T04:26
好想吃
Andy avatar
By Andy
at 2016-08-17T09:20
排隊
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By Rosalind
at 2016-08-20T22:50
排隊
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By Liam
at 2016-08-22T04:54
卡位
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By Zora
at 2016-08-22T11:19
先排個隊
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By Una
at 2016-08-27T03:46
卡位
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By Ida
at 2016-08-31T23:00
排隊
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By Steve
at 2016-09-04T10:00
一定吃不到給箭頭
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By Dora
at 2016-09-07T03:48
排隊
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By Robert
at 2016-09-11T21:53
卡位囉
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By Frederic
at 2016-09-16T01:17
排排站
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By Hamiltion
at 2016-09-19T08:31
卡位
Joseph avatar
By Joseph
at 2016-09-24T07:39
先卡位
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By Isla
at 2016-09-27T13:23
XD
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By Mason
at 2016-10-01T19:48
卡位
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By Ula
at 2016-10-01T21:58
先卡位
Gary avatar
By Gary
at 2016-10-05T16:57
排隊
Kyle avatar
By Kyle
at 2016-10-06T20:47
排隊卡位
Iris avatar
By Iris
at 2016-10-11T11:00
排隊,但是講清楚啊!在哪請,幾號請,是不是只要贏其中一
個就請
Edith avatar
By Edith
at 2016-10-12T12:20
排隊排隊
Quanna avatar
By Quanna
at 2016-10-13T12:03
等雞排(到時可能會有產能不足之類的理由)
Kristin avatar
By Kristin
at 2016-10-17T06:31
難 但是先卡
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By Ophelia
at 2016-10-20T00:55
卡位
Joseph avatar
By Joseph
at 2016-10-23T13:55
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By Barb Cronin
at 2016-10-28T10:33
卡位
Quanna avatar
By Quanna
at 2016-10-30T12:06
卡位+1
Bennie avatar
By Bennie
at 2016-11-01T11:51
不用卡了 卡這種沒機會的幹嘛
Enid avatar
By Enid
at 2016-11-05T00:49
雞排
Lily avatar
By Lily
at 2016-11-06T05:35
Dora avatar
By Dora
at 2016-11-07T00:26
卡位
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By Damian
at 2016-11-07T03:07
卡撐
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By Blanche
at 2016-11-09T07:09
卡位
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By Xanthe
at 2016-11-11T07:27
卡卡
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By Skylar Davis
at 2016-11-12T12:33
排~~
Jack avatar
By Jack
at 2016-11-16T14:34
先排隊
Faithe avatar
By Faithe
at 2016-11-21T08:02
卡位先
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By Audriana
at 2016-11-24T07:14
謝謝樓主,高雄+1
Jake avatar
By Jake
at 2016-11-24T20:15
卡位
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By Genevieve
at 2016-11-29T09:29
卡一下!現在位置排到幾號了?應該還沒超過100吧?
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By Aaliyah
at 2016-11-30T23:20
Jake avatar
By Jake
at 2016-12-02T03:50
排隊喔
Kumar avatar
By Kumar
at 2016-12-03T13:08
現在crv跟xtrail也才賣幾台,你哪天才發得到?
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By Skylar DavisLinda
at 2016-12-05T21:27
卡!
Ina avatar
By Ina
at 2016-12-06T12:59
搶位子
Anonymous avatar
By Anonymous
at 2016-12-10T13:43
+1
Faithe avatar
By Faithe
at 2016-12-10T17:24
先卡位
Elma avatar
By Elma
at 2016-12-13T19:13
雞排+1
Rebecca avatar
By Rebecca
at 2016-12-17T01:32
逼我卡位...卡咔
Rebecca avatar
By Rebecca
at 2016-12-19T22:05
卡位
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By Frederica
at 2016-12-24T16:54
排隊
Ina avatar
By Ina
at 2016-12-28T22:13
Kyle avatar
By Kyle
at 2016-12-31T04:15
我卡
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By Anonymous
at 2017-01-03T19:18
卡位
Joseph avatar
By Joseph
at 2017-01-06T22:36
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By Odelette
at 2017-01-08T05:12
Heather avatar
By Heather
at 2017-01-12T17:37
先推
Lucy avatar
By Lucy
at 2017-01-14T10:43
推推
Megan avatar
By Megan
at 2017-01-16T17:31
卡,先推
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By Carolina Franco
at 2017-01-19T15:02
Megan avatar
By Megan
at 2017-01-19T17:42
卡位
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By Madame
at 2017-01-21T07:54
卡!
Sarah avatar
By Sarah
at 2017-01-22T14:43
卡位
David avatar
By David
at 2017-01-25T21:13
卡位
Olive avatar
By Olive
at 2017-01-29T23:13
Ida avatar
By Ida
at 2017-01-31T10:29
卡位等雞排
Mary avatar
By Mary
at 2017-02-02T11:45
雞排~~
Hedda avatar
By Hedda
at 2017-02-03T13:04
卡位
Edward Lewis avatar
By Edward Lewis
at 2017-02-07T16:56
Kristin avatar
By Kristin
at 2017-02-10T03:39
卡位
Cara avatar
By Cara
at 2017-02-15T02:40
卡位
Frederica avatar
By Frederica
at 2017-02-18T22:17
卡位
Hamiltion avatar
By Hamiltion
at 2017-02-19T17:04
卡位吃雞排
Hedwig avatar
By Hedwig
at 2017-02-20T19:54
卡位 我是第100
Emily avatar
By Emily
at 2017-02-21T11:07
Mason avatar
By Mason
at 2017-02-22T22:23
不切大辣,幫我送現代任一經銷地點,如賣不好至少他們有雞排
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By Carolina Franco
at 2017-02-26T23:53
Daniel avatar
By Daniel
at 2017-02-28T09:15
卡位
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By Wallis
at 2017-03-03T20:50
卡位
Oliver avatar
By Oliver
at 2017-03-06T16:58
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By Tracy
at 2017-03-06T19:54
卡位
Frederic avatar
By Frederic
at 2017-03-10T20:48
卡位
Jake avatar
By Jake
at 2017-03-11T13:57
卡位
Hedy avatar
By Hedy
at 2017-03-15T21:48
還好還有位子
Freda avatar
By Freda
at 2017-03-19T12:32
卡位
Jessica avatar
By Jessica
at 2017-03-22T17:48
卡位
Dinah avatar
By Dinah
at 2017-03-24T13:23
卡位推推
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By Kumar
at 2017-03-25T10:59
Caroline avatar
By Caroline
at 2017-03-30T07:23
卡位先囉
Xanthe avatar
By Xanthe
at 2017-03-30T21:40
卡位囉
Jessica avatar
By Jessica
at 2017-04-03T17:28
卡位看熱鬧先
Frederic avatar
By Frederic
at 2017-04-07T11:45
Olga avatar
By Olga
at 2017-04-09T02:04
宵夜時間想吃雞排
Gary avatar
By Gary
at 2017-04-13T11:01
卡位
Todd Johnson avatar
By Todd Johnson
at 2017-04-15T17:44
不要辣
Harry avatar
By Harry
at 2017-04-16T12:32
不可能超越的.....
Irma avatar
By Irma
at 2017-04-19T14:41
韓國車洗洗睡吧
Kristin avatar
By Kristin
at 2017-04-21T02:47
花蓮預約一分 小辣 胡椒粉多一點
Isla avatar
By Isla
at 2017-04-21T05:36
卡位 謝謝
Lily avatar
By Lily
at 2017-04-24T18:34
XD
Margaret avatar
By Margaret
at 2017-04-29T00:29
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By Lydia
at 2017-04-30T12:10
Lily avatar
By Lily
at 2017-05-02T06:29
Olive avatar
By Olive
at 2017-05-04T00:47
Dora avatar
By Dora
at 2017-05-05T12:36
謝謝大大
Jacky avatar
By Jacky
at 2017-05-05T22:25
贏rav4我是覺得有點難…但我想吃雞排QQ
Emily avatar
By Emily
at 2017-05-08T21:37
CRV根本神車 路上一堆剛掛牌的,國民休旅車
Sierra Rose avatar
By Sierra Rose
at 2017-05-12T22:52
報名ㄧ下
Kama avatar
By Kama
at 2017-05-13T11:39
純卡不吃,省起來
Margaret avatar
By Margaret
at 2017-05-16T00:27
靠北打錯是CRV
Michael avatar
By Michael
at 2017-05-20T15:41
好多CRV車主都貼紅H,本田魂
Hedda avatar
By Hedda
at 2017-05-25T00:08
Cara avatar
By Cara
at 2017-05-25T12:17
卡位雞排
Olive avatar
By Olive
at 2017-05-27T09:18
卡位
Joseph avatar
By Joseph
at 2017-06-01T06:13
卡位,我也好奇會不會贏
Elma avatar
By Elma
at 2017-06-06T04:18
7/4 星期一,預約一份
Faithe avatar
By Faithe
at 2017-06-08T18:50
一定吃不到 不用算我的
Heather avatar
By Heather
at 2017-06-11T08:55
卡。坐等雞排吃
Ida avatar
By Ida
at 2017-06-13T20:01
Noah avatar
By Noah
at 2017-06-16T23:13
Freda avatar
By Freda
at 2017-06-19T04:53
卡位
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By Necoo
at 2017-06-23T02:22
Hardy avatar
By Hardy
at 2017-06-26T13:14
有卡有推~
Brianna avatar
By Brianna
at 2017-06-28T08:46
+1
Yuri avatar
By Yuri
at 2017-07-03T07:24
-.-/
Queena avatar
By Queena
at 2017-07-04T06:40
卡一下
Lucy avatar
By Lucy
at 2017-07-06T10:20
根本業配
Yuri avatar
By Yuri
at 2017-07-10T02:03
David avatar
By David
at 2017-07-11T07:15
干我也要
Charlotte avatar
By Charlotte
at 2017-07-14T14:06
沙發奶茶
Madame avatar
By Madame
at 2017-07-15T23:20
要賺推文用這招猛 +1
Annie avatar
By Annie
at 2017-07-16T20:26
卡卡卡卡卡
Connor avatar
By Connor
at 2017-07-18T09:31
我也要雞排
Delia avatar
By Delia
at 2017-07-20T08:41
Ophelia avatar
By Ophelia
at 2017-07-23T04:13
卡位
Kyle avatar
By Kyle
at 2017-07-26T21:10
雞排
Sandy avatar
By Sandy
at 2017-07-27T02:13
Rosalind avatar
By Rosalind
at 2017-07-27T12:21
我也要
Elvira avatar
By Elvira
at 2017-07-30T19:36
卡位
Elizabeth avatar
By Elizabeth
at 2017-08-01T23:35
雞排+
Donna avatar
By Donna
at 2017-08-06T00:46
卡位
Audriana avatar
By Audriana
at 2017-08-08T15:49
吃雞排囉
Elvira avatar
By Elvira
at 2017-08-12T16:10
難 但是卡位
Jacky avatar
By Jacky
at 2017-08-13T02:19
想吃
Bethany avatar
By Bethany
at 2017-08-16T04:18
想吃
Barb Cronin avatar
By Barb Cronin
at 2017-08-18T05:28
卡位先
Carolina Franco avatar
By Carolina Franco
at 2017-08-20T21:47
卡位
Thomas avatar
By Thomas
at 2017-08-23T05:59
卡位
Isabella avatar
By Isabella
at 2017-08-23T13:16
我也要雞排
Hedwig avatar
By Hedwig
at 2017-08-24T06:20
卡位+1
Candice avatar
By Candice
at 2017-08-25T13:51
卡位
Isabella avatar
By Isabella
at 2017-08-27T15:19
卡,雖然我知道機會渺茫
Zora avatar
By Zora
at 2017-08-31T12:15
單純想吃雞排XDDD
Brianna avatar
By Brianna
at 2017-08-31T21:36
卡位
Isabella avatar
By Isabella
at 2017-09-02T11:06
卡位,沒有超越也沒損失呀!
Olga avatar
By Olga
at 2017-09-07T10:10
補位,可是刪文了耶,配的也太明顯,批踢發一篇領多少?
Oscar avatar
By Oscar
at 2017-09-10T19:52
卡位!!
Ivy avatar
By Ivy
at 2017-09-13T19:00
卡位
Thomas avatar
By Thomas
at 2017-09-17T22:53
要切微辣,雖然不太可能吃到
Kyle avatar
By Kyle
at 2017-09-22T22:21
還有嗎
Irma avatar
By Irma
at 2017-09-25T17:17
+1
John avatar
By John
at 2017-09-29T01:58
卡+1
Callum avatar
By Callum
at 2017-09-30T04:59
+1
Mia avatar
By Mia
at 2017-10-02T00:03
+1
Skylar Davis avatar
By Skylar Davis
at 2017-10-05T14:28
卡位囉
Belly avatar
By Belly
at 2017-10-06T05:25
卡位
Robert avatar
By Robert
at 2017-10-08T19:53
卡位先,不過不可能,牌子輸
Barb Cronin avatar
By Barb Cronin
at 2017-10-10T16:37
卡位等雞排,土桑加油呀!
Madame avatar
By Madame
at 2017-10-13T03:48
+1
Andrew avatar
By Andrew
at 2017-10-15T21:42
卡位,土桑不可能贏,還是要卡
Gary avatar
By Gary
at 2017-10-20T03:44
卡位
Jake avatar
By Jake
at 2017-10-22T23:53
有卡位才有雞排嗎?但這台到底好不好啊
Damian avatar
By Damian
at 2017-10-25T04:36
臭熱鬧
Freda avatar
By Freda
at 2017-10-27T19:39
我也要卡
Oscar avatar
By Oscar
at 2017-10-29T20:06
雞排
Genevieve avatar
By Genevieve
at 2017-10-31T01:03
卡位 +1
Faithe avatar
By Faithe
at 2017-11-01T16:57
卡位預計吃雞排
Connor avatar
By Connor
at 2017-11-04T03:24
+1
Leila avatar
By Leila
at 2017-11-06T17:24
品牌關係有點難,但不是不可能哦
Joe avatar
By Joe
at 2017-11-11T13:53
阿姐 我在這~~
Elvira avatar
By Elvira
at 2017-11-16T05:16
Ina avatar
By Ina
at 2017-11-21T02:56
Mason avatar
By Mason
at 2017-11-24T21:25
一堆車主都在拔廠徽的爛品牌 你這雞排要發出也難
Sierra Rose avatar
By Sierra Rose
at 2017-11-25T17:35
坐等,不過應該很難,台灣人選車品牌大於一切。
Oscar avatar
By Oscar
at 2017-11-28T21:03
純推不吃
Blanche avatar
By Blanche
at 2017-12-03T01:14
可惡 排超長的...
Bennie avatar
By Bennie
at 2017-12-07T02:56
卡位
Ina avatar
By Ina
at 2017-12-07T12:05
有卡有得吃
John avatar
By John
at 2017-12-07T14:23
這又不準 台灣都爛車賣的好 VY之類的
Jacky avatar
By Jacky
at 2017-12-10T19:14
如果BMW賣的比Toyota好~~~我就吃屎給大家看~
Tom avatar
By Tom
at 2017-12-13T13:35
Ula avatar
By Ula
at 2017-12-15T00:38
卡位
Belly avatar
By Belly
at 2017-12-17T15:08
卡位
Erin avatar
By Erin
at 2017-12-22T08:49
卡卡位
John avatar
By John
at 2017-12-23T18:23
卡位+1
Dinah avatar
By Dinah
at 2017-12-28T17:59
我也要吃雞排 好像爆了..
Yuri avatar
By Yuri
at 2017-12-31T18:36
想卡啦
Michael avatar
By Michael
at 2018-01-01T01:38
等雞排
Queena avatar
By Queena
at 2018-01-02T22:46
排隊來得及嗎?
Caroline avatar
By Caroline
at 2018-01-06T22:03
報名
Kumar avatar
By Kumar
at 2018-01-09T07:40
我也想要
Megan avatar
By Megan
at 2018-01-09T16:10
Iris avatar
By Iris
at 2018-01-12T06:36
Lucy avatar
By Lucy
at 2018-01-16T00:46
以銷量來判斷車好不好真的也不是多明智
Oliver avatar
By Oliver
at 2018-01-20T12:57
吃吃吃
Edward Lewis avatar
By Edward Lewis
at 2018-01-23T12:35
現在排隊領雞排,還來的及嗎
Olivia avatar
By Olivia
at 2018-01-25T21:11
卡位
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By Suhail Hany
at 2018-01-29T02:38
Una avatar
By Una
at 2018-02-03T00:42
Hardy avatar
By Hardy
at 2018-02-07T08:08
排隊
Faithe avatar
By Faithe
at 2018-02-10T10:59
Rosalind avatar
By Rosalind
at 2018-02-14T04:09
卡位,排隊
Elizabeth avatar
By Elizabeth
at 2018-02-18T19:26
天氣太熱 可以換挫冰嗎
Edward Lewis avatar
By Edward Lewis
at 2018-02-19T13:35
還有名額嗎?
Sarah avatar
By Sarah
at 2018-02-21T07:59
+1
Poppy avatar
By Poppy
at 2018-02-22T02:15
卡位
Anonymous avatar
By Anonymous
at 2018-02-25T20:00
我也要吃
Megan avatar
By Megan
at 2018-02-28T03:45
卡位+1
Olga avatar
By Olga
at 2018-03-02T01:42
卡位
Jake avatar
By Jake
at 2018-03-02T02:51
加 1
Oliver avatar
By Oliver
at 2018-03-04T07:36
+1
Kelly avatar
By Kelly
at 2018-03-07T22:50
想吃+1
Thomas avatar
By Thomas
at 2018-03-11T07:51
排隊
Isabella avatar
By Isabella
at 2018-03-12T00:12
說好的喔!
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By Tristan Cohan
at 2018-03-13T14:22
卡一下
Thomas avatar
By Thomas
at 2018-03-15T23:33
卡位
Catherine avatar
By Catherine
at 2018-03-16T16:37
我看你要發雞排了,先排隊!
Oliver avatar
By Oliver
at 2018-03-21T12:34
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By Dinah
at 2018-03-22T02:19

國道警察攔超速 兩員警車禍送醫

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By Adele
at 2016-07-03T20:43
新竹縣國道三號北上96.3公里寶山路段,稍早發生警車、貨車追撞事件,一度造成國道阻塞,兩名員警、貨車駕駛身受輕傷,目前已送往台北榮民醫院新竹分院急救,無生命危險,詳細事故還待警方釐清。 警方表示,戴姓與陳姓員警當時攔截一輛超速違規汽車,途中疑似撞上一台貨車,導致警車前方嚴重毀損,貨車駕駛、兩名員警身上多處挫 ...

想問寶獅208 1.2VTI的問題

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By Skylar Davis
at 2016-07-03T20:21
208是我四月時候牽的 目前遇到最大的問題是 遇到陡坡會有動力遲滯的問題 像是在比較陡的停車場 如果用自排 開到一半會有約一秒動力停止的感覺 但用手排用一檔爬就沒這問題 前幾天去杉林溪也是 遇到大轉彎的斜坡 油門都要踩很深 不然就要切到手排 感覺上就是一二檔在自動切換時不是很順 想問一下版上有開 ...

台中東海附近有沒有加油站洗車CP值高的

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By Lauren
at 2016-07-03T18:40
請問一下台中東海附近有沒有加油站洗車CP值高的加油站 一百元以內洗完不會還看的到水漬的 有推薦的嗎西屯人幫忙介紹一下謝謝~~ - ...

MAZDA3 馬三外接影音功能討論

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By Rae
at 2016-07-03T18:26
因本人有看大聯盟的習慣,所以有想加裝DTV以及手機鏡像來收看大聯盟 但是比較幾個廠家提供的方案,想與大家分享並且詢問大家是否有建議店家? 以下都是臉書Mazda3 魂動社《零件精品交流區》的賣家 1.台中賣家,因為太遠,所以就沒有問多少錢,手機鏡像時候手機與主機沒有LAG https://goo.gl ...

購車給親屬-稅務問題

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By Annie
at 2016-07-03T15:03
大家好 預想購車給小孩代步使用 車主登記給孩子 不曉,會不會有稅務問題? ------------------ 前一陣子新聞報導,父母親買房給小孩,卻遭受大額的補稅問題。 想說買車,會不會遇到相同的問題 還是說,有多少限額以下,是無需補繳稅費 再麻煩有相關經驗的鄉民 感謝 - ...