大家對部分店家凹歐系車車主的看法? - BMW

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作者: orzzz (高雄是個好地方) 看板: car
標題: [討論] 大家對部分店家凹歐系車車主的看法?
時間: Sun Jul 6 00:17:11 2014
歐系車(尤其雙B等級以上) 的保養維修費用及料件價格比起日美韓係有著顯著的差價
我想這現象大家早已知道,我先簡短整理一下我聽到的說法
1. 零件坐飛機坐船來,當然比較貴。
2. 歐系車件較複雜精密,拆裝及維修比較難 。
3. 歐系車件較複雜精密,仿造比較難 。(譬如台製歐系車燈具 > 台製日系車燈具 )
4. 歐系車元件較貴,不小心弄壞了就要賠大錢,所以多收費當賣個保險。
5. 歐系車修理學習耗時較久,技師當年教育投資比日系車技師多。
上述我認為都很合理,多收費是天經地義,不過本魯朋友們的兩個遭遇我就搞不太懂了:
事件a.
兄弟檔,住桃園,開E46 330ci 跟上一代的馬3,在不同時間(約差了半年)去同店家裝隔熱紙,兩車配置及型號一樣,具體內容不清楚但知道是FSK+3M的組合,330ci比馬3少兩個門,結果店家對3er的收費硬是多了$1.5k (所以如果是非ci/ti的3er 差價會更可觀). 店家說法是:BMW玻璃材質及處理都比Mazda特殊及高級,我們在施工時候也特別用進口黏膠…
事件b.
朋友d開W209 CLK, 該車一年前曾全車烤漆,因此不是什麼特殊賓士奈米糙米或是蓬萊米漆。上個月前保桿被小石頭打掉約1個一元硬幣大小的漆。他FSC朋友k介紹他到高雄一家保修場,該廠有在做局烤。
e開focus ,他的後保被打出也是一個硬幣大小的洞,補土+局烤那店家收$800。
d開去,結果店家看了車,報價$1200純局烤不須板金補土,d有點疑惑,直接表明朋友k的focus處理才$800, 店家頓了一下說那k的case 他們是點漆,朋友d看店家很明顯在硬凹,也就懶的戳破謊言,道個謝就離開了。
註: 朋友d知道M01及ptt網友推薦的新竹、土城、萬華、南港知名局烤店家價格約是$1k ~ $1.5k, $1.2K其實很不錯,低於朋友d的預算, 但本例的焦點是不同車系的價格差別待遇。
很明顯的,這兩個案件,店家們打著歐系車比較高級的旗號或根本莫須有的理由,來向歐系車車主凹錢,不知各位朋友對部分台灣店家向歐系車車主(尤其雙B等級以上)掰各種理由凹錢的看法是如何?
又,大家在遇到這種店家時候,是怎麼的反應?
如因某些原因(譬如某總成的一部分已在該店家安裝,或方圓百里沒有其他店家可做某件事情),一定要在該店家保修/施工,大家有什麼方法、話術、溝通技巧把價格降到合理的範圍內?
p.s. 未看先猜會有朋友留言: 都開到雙B了還會在乎被凹哪一點錢嗎?
對於這問題,本板及歐車板已有板友提出另一角度看法:就是會斤斤計較的個性,就是那個對成本支出及利益回收的精打細算,就是那個打破沙鍋探討到底的堅持,讓車主累積到那個身家購買雙B。
另外,雙B audi都有不少車款是鎖定年輕小資組群,在外國的售價都是百萬台幣以下,上述質問對這些車款的車主並不公平,原廠及買家自己根本就不把這些車款定位為高級豪華車
不管怎樣,上述質問的論述攻防不是本魯本篇想探討的重點,本魯希望可藉由這議題來探討一下買賣雙方在台灣汽車產業的行為模式。
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作者: orzzz (高雄是個好地方) 看板: car
標題: [討論] 大家對部分店家凹歐系車車主的看法?
時間: Sun Jul 6 00:17:11 2014
歐系車(尤其雙B等級以上) 的保養維修費用及料件價格比起日美韓係有著顯著的差價
我想這現象大家早已知道,我先簡短整理一下我聽到的說法
1. 零件坐飛機坐船來,當然比較貴。
2. 歐系車件較複雜精密,拆裝及維修比較難 。
3. 歐系車件較複雜精密,仿造比較難 。(譬如台製歐系車燈具 > 台製日系車燈具 )
4. 歐系車元件較貴,不小心弄壞了就要賠大錢,所以多收費當賣個保險。
5. 歐系車修理學習耗時較久,技師當年教育投資比日系車技師多。
上述我認為都很合理,多收費是天經地義,不過本魯朋友們的兩個遭遇我就搞不太懂了:
事件a.
兄弟檔,住桃園,開E46 330ci 跟上一代的馬3,在不同時間(約差了半年)去同店家裝隔熱紙,兩車配置及型號一樣,具體內容不清楚但知道是FSK+3M的組合,330ci比馬3少兩個門,結果店家對3er的收費硬是多了$1.5k (所以如果是非ci/ti的3er 差價會更可觀). 店家說法是:BMW玻璃材質及處理都比Mazda特殊及高級,我們在施工時候也特別用進口黏膠…
事件b.
朋友d開W209 CLK, 該車一年前曾全車烤漆,因此不是什麼特殊賓士奈米糙米或是蓬萊米漆。上個月前保桿被小石頭打掉約1個一元硬幣大小的漆。他FSC朋友k介紹他到高雄一家保修場,該廠有在做局烤。
e開focus ,他的後保被打出也是一個硬幣大小的洞,補土+局烤那店家收$800。
d開去,結果店家看了車,報價$1200純局烤不須板金補土,d有點疑惑,直接表明朋友k的focus處理才$800, 店家頓了一下說那k的case 他們是點漆,朋友d看店家很明顯在硬凹,也就懶的戳破謊言,道個謝就離開了。
註: 朋友d知道M01及ptt網友推薦的新竹、土城、萬華、南港知名局烤店家價格約是$1k ~ $1.5k, $1.2K其實很不錯,低於朋友d的預算, 但本例的焦點是不同車系的價格差別待遇。
很明顯的,這兩個案件,店家們打著歐系車比較高級的旗號或根本莫須有的理由,來向歐系車車主凹錢,不知各位朋友對部分台灣店家向歐系車車主(尤其雙B等級以上)掰各種理由凹錢的看法是如何?
又,大家在遇到這種店家時候,是怎麼的反應?
如因某些原因(譬如某總成的一部分已在該店家安裝,或方圓百里沒有其他店家可做某件事情),一定要在該店家保修/施工,大家有什麼方法、話術、溝通技巧把價格降到合理的範圍內?
p.s. 未看先猜會有朋友留言: 都開到雙B了還會在乎被凹哪一點錢嗎?
對於這問題,本板及歐車板已有板友提出另一角度看法:就是會斤斤計較的個性,就是那個對成本支出及利益回收的精打細算,就是那個打破沙鍋探討到底的堅持,讓車主累積到那個身家購買雙B。
另外,雙B audi都有不少車款是鎖定年輕小資組群,在外國的售價都是百萬台幣以下,上述質問對這些車款的車主並不公平,原廠及買家自己根本就不把這些車款定位為高級豪華車
不管怎樣,上述質問的論述攻防不是本魯本篇想探討的重點,本魯希望可藉由這議題來探討一下買賣雙方在台灣汽車產業的行為模式。
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