很多人忽略電動車家裡充很慢 電池衰退 - 特斯拉

By Skylar Davis
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看完的感想電車還是不適合長途旅行
1.現階段即使連特牌的超充都還不夠普及,油車可以做到順路再去加油,但電車很大的概率就是要繞路去充電。
2.文章中提到西部40km會有一座以上超充,如果是偏離目的地的去充電,光開去充電站再開回原路徑,然後充上30分鐘,且還不算上萬一超充要排隊的窘境。
3.為了讓自己感到不是專程去等充電,只能屈就超充週邊機能'順便'做事情,沒有機能的地方只能打卡說在車上看網飛。怎麼看都是人在配合車休息/吃飯/甚至住宿,到底是誰出去玩啊?
※ 引述《tatibana31 (老婆說我只有排行程功能)》之銘言:
: ※ 引述《PrettyOdd ()》之銘言:
: : 常常看推文 都說家裡能充電再買電動車
: : 但是看鄉民討論
: : 家裡充100公里大概也要兩小時
: : 那也是超級慢
: : 假設今天回家剩下不多電
: : 馬上要再出門 假設什麼擎天崗之類的
: : 你行程就是必須焦慮或是乾脆不去了
: : 重點是在家充電要電費 跟油電差距又更小
: : 再加上電池衰退的問題
: : 開個一兩年衰退10%
: : 這比例其實很高
: : 如果要保養電池那還必須放電不低於20%
: : 充電不高於80%
: : 等於實際上續航力又大減
: : 里程焦慮根本很肯定會遇到
: : 除非你是一個都不出遠門出去玩的人
: : 應該也沒人有車會是這樣的
: : 很多人買電動車之前知道這些問題嗎?
: 先講結論:
: 在臺灣西部平地開特斯拉,等電池從黃變紅再來里程焦慮吧!
: 我自己開特斯拉SR+(標準版,續航里程同級最低的)
: 上次我老婆突然想到說要去溪頭健走(約170公里)
: 車上的電只剩100公里,還要沿途接他同事
: 接完他幾個同事後,上國道三號後語音下「帶我去超充站」
: 最方便的就是「中埔超充站」,離交流道不到5分鐘,
: 充到95%約380公里,順便解決中餐,那邊還有星巴克。
: 充完電後這380公里,夠我兩天一夜溪頭行,中間還加了一個
: 杉林溪。(而且我哨兵跟車室過熱沒關過)
: 也可以用特斯拉旅車機的旅程規劃來看電夠不夠用。
: 特斯拉電量20%會亮黃色電池燈號,SR約可續行70~80公里
: 亮黃色燈號,因為哨兵跟車室過熱無法使用,自然就會想充電
: 我相信大部份特斯拉車主,尤其自己家有充電樁的,應該鮮少
: 讓自己的電量處在20%以下。神似油車亮加油燈,你就會找加
: 油站的感覺一樣。
: 家裡有充電樁,回家就插上,每天都是滿電出門
: (至少有80%,如果今年的標準版每天都可以100%出門)
: 開油車不太可能每天都先把油加滿再回家吧?
: 這是持有電動車後會比較不一樣的地方。
: 目前西部的特斯拉超充站40公里內會有一座以上(東部我不清楚)
: 40公里應該算是極端距離了,以我為例,我打開APP,20公里內
: 就有三座超充站,最近的一座約6公里(彰化可能比較慘,最近的
: 一座會粉遠....
: 而且新的超充站似乎都蓋在交通要道附近,除非故意,不然有
: 點難開到完全沒電。而且CCS2車主更不用擔心,沒有特斯拉還
: 有第三方業者(TPC表示:.....
: 至於衰退問題....我雖然非高里程,原先以為我的電池滿電應該
: 不到400公里,但偶爾100%充飽校正後,竟然還是破400的狀況
: 再加上SR可以開出很漂亮的電耗,夏天1度電可以跑將近9公里
: 秋冬我最好的記錄開到1度電11公里多,會比表顯還里程要多....
: (上述是以常跑的路線的記錄,SR表顯大約是以1度8.X公里推算)
: 至於跑山區問題,當然就建議充滿電再上去,特斯拉的特性
: 就是「上得去,就下得來」,除非下山開130以上啦!或是喜
: 歡踩煞車而是不靠動能回充,不然下山一整路就是在充電而
: 已。
: 以最近新開的南橫,根據車友的回饋,全程約25度電,所以我
: 估上到海拔最高頂多35度電,SR電量80%就能衝了。
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1.現階段即使連特牌的超充都還不夠普及,油車可以做到順路再去加油,但電車很大的概率就是要繞路去充電。
2.文章中提到西部40km會有一座以上超充,如果是偏離目的地的去充電,光開去充電站再開回原路徑,然後充上30分鐘,且還不算上萬一超充要排隊的窘境。
3.為了讓自己感到不是專程去等充電,只能屈就超充週邊機能'順便'做事情,沒有機能的地方只能打卡說在車上看網飛。怎麼看都是人在配合車休息/吃飯/甚至住宿,到底是誰出去玩啊?
※ 引述《tatibana31 (老婆說我只有排行程功能)》之銘言:
: ※ 引述《PrettyOdd ()》之銘言:
: : 常常看推文 都說家裡能充電再買電動車
: : 但是看鄉民討論
: : 家裡充100公里大概也要兩小時
: : 那也是超級慢
: : 假設今天回家剩下不多電
: : 馬上要再出門 假設什麼擎天崗之類的
: : 你行程就是必須焦慮或是乾脆不去了
: : 重點是在家充電要電費 跟油電差距又更小
: : 再加上電池衰退的問題
: : 開個一兩年衰退10%
: : 這比例其實很高
: : 如果要保養電池那還必須放電不低於20%
: : 充電不高於80%
: : 等於實際上續航力又大減
: : 里程焦慮根本很肯定會遇到
: : 除非你是一個都不出遠門出去玩的人
: : 應該也沒人有車會是這樣的
: : 很多人買電動車之前知道這些問題嗎?
: 先講結論:
: 在臺灣西部平地開特斯拉,等電池從黃變紅再來里程焦慮吧!
: 我自己開特斯拉SR+(標準版,續航里程同級最低的)
: 上次我老婆突然想到說要去溪頭健走(約170公里)
: 車上的電只剩100公里,還要沿途接他同事
: 接完他幾個同事後,上國道三號後語音下「帶我去超充站」
: 最方便的就是「中埔超充站」,離交流道不到5分鐘,
: 充到95%約380公里,順便解決中餐,那邊還有星巴克。
: 充完電後這380公里,夠我兩天一夜溪頭行,中間還加了一個
: 杉林溪。(而且我哨兵跟車室過熱沒關過)
: 也可以用特斯拉旅車機的旅程規劃來看電夠不夠用。
: 特斯拉電量20%會亮黃色電池燈號,SR約可續行70~80公里
: 亮黃色燈號,因為哨兵跟車室過熱無法使用,自然就會想充電
: 我相信大部份特斯拉車主,尤其自己家有充電樁的,應該鮮少
: 讓自己的電量處在20%以下。神似油車亮加油燈,你就會找加
: 油站的感覺一樣。
: 家裡有充電樁,回家就插上,每天都是滿電出門
: (至少有80%,如果今年的標準版每天都可以100%出門)
: 開油車不太可能每天都先把油加滿再回家吧?
: 這是持有電動車後會比較不一樣的地方。
: 目前西部的特斯拉超充站40公里內會有一座以上(東部我不清楚)
: 40公里應該算是極端距離了,以我為例,我打開APP,20公里內
: 就有三座超充站,最近的一座約6公里(彰化可能比較慘,最近的
: 一座會粉遠....
: 而且新的超充站似乎都蓋在交通要道附近,除非故意,不然有
: 點難開到完全沒電。而且CCS2車主更不用擔心,沒有特斯拉還
: 有第三方業者(TPC表示:.....
: 至於衰退問題....我雖然非高里程,原先以為我的電池滿電應該
: 不到400公里,但偶爾100%充飽校正後,竟然還是破400的狀況
: 再加上SR可以開出很漂亮的電耗,夏天1度電可以跑將近9公里
: 秋冬我最好的記錄開到1度電11公里多,會比表顯還里程要多....
: (上述是以常跑的路線的記錄,SR表顯大約是以1度8.X公里推算)
: 至於跑山區問題,當然就建議充滿電再上去,特斯拉的特性
: 就是「上得去,就下得來」,除非下山開130以上啦!或是喜
: 歡踩煞車而是不靠動能回充,不然下山一整路就是在充電而
: 已。
: 以最近新開的南橫,根據車友的回饋,全程約25度電,所以我
: 估上到海拔最高頂多35度電,SR電量80%就能衝了。
-----
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