新Focus道路撞擊測試 - 汽車

Anthony avatar
By Anthony
at 2019-02-25T18:37

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新聞出來了

http://news.ltn.com.tw/news/society/breakingnews/2709446

對手是prius4,新Focus似乎沒有明顯佔上風。
https://i.imgur.com/8pKVdlT.jpg

33%硼鋼表示:對手有點強...

※ 引述《EFERO (神奇寶貝大師)》之銘言
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All Comments

Damian avatar
By Damian
at 2019-02-26T15:57
車室沒變形的撞擊 看不出來誰比較強
Hardy avatar
By Hardy
at 2019-03-01T03:23
https://i.imgur.com/lsAyn2U.jpg
Caroline avatar
By Caroline
at 2019-03-03T03:03
路權大贏了
Yedda avatar
By Yedda
at 2019-03-06T20:22
Focus看不太出來 倒是P4還不錯
Hardy avatar
By Hardy
at 2019-03-08T06:30
豐田果然還是買進口車
Frederica avatar
By Frederica
at 2019-03-11T20:13
沒輸沒贏吧
Selena avatar
By Selena
at 2019-03-16T15:34
進口P4側面 防守大勝國產福祿仔車頭
Kelly avatar
By Kelly
at 2019-03-20T14:58
https://i.imgur.com/WlF3IzW.jpg
Mason avatar
By Mason
at 2019-03-23T07:56
https://i.imgur.com/qcDqpqL.jpg
Kelly avatar
By Kelly
at 2019-03-27T09:33
牛頭進口還是蠻硬的
Andy avatar
By Andy
at 2019-03-31T19:33
側面太強
Oscar avatar
By Oscar
at 2019-04-05T15:42
P4有猛,側面頂正面傷勢看起來還比較輕
Mason avatar
By Mason
at 2019-04-09T02:18
牛頭酸酸 :日本進口豐田被撞到車門打不開
Una avatar
By Una
at 2019-04-10T10:08
看來 進口新rav4也是很穩,難怪神r要大賣
Dora avatar
By Dora
at 2019-04-12T10:59
牛頭棒棒!以後誰敢再說牛頭鋁罐!馬上拿這張浮粉最愛提
Odelette avatar
By Odelette
at 2019-04-15T13:38
的鈑金很厚來打他臉^^
Charlotte avatar
By Charlotte
at 2019-04-18T00:47
Focus MK4社團 https://goo.gl/yWSZG7
Lauren avatar
By Lauren
at 2019-04-18T09:41
兩台都不錯啊,撞擊點不同都算硬了
Barb Cronin avatar
By Barb Cronin
at 2019-04-19T17:30
新一代神A還不知道
Harry avatar
By Harry
at 2019-04-20T02:39
這台白P4修起來 一堆總成 還有珍珠白漆不會比新焦點便宜
Valerie avatar
By Valerie
at 2019-04-20T07:12
如果牌子反過來牛頭絕對被嘴爆 但撞的是進口牛 福粉
只好#覺得安全不輸
Sandy avatar
By Sandy
at 2019-04-22T14:16
focus看得出來骨架沒傷,但prius硬吃也不簡單,映證prius系
列都很硬
Donna avatar
By Donna
at 2019-04-25T05:24
toyota連玻璃都沒破
Puput avatar
By Puput
at 2019-04-27T10:57
P4車頭跟車尾 都有內型鋼 這台新焦點車頭看不太出來有無
Barb Cronin avatar
By Barb Cronin
at 2019-04-30T17:32
日字環狀強化鋼板側門就是屌
Sandy avatar
By Sandy
at 2019-05-01T15:11
沒想到P4的側邊這麼硬 不過門居然破了 應該是整組換掉
Barb Cronin avatar
By Barb Cronin
at 2019-05-03T07:06
P4:我好像有點強
Zora avatar
By Zora
at 2019-05-04T00:44
p4:你是硼什麼?
Sierra Rose avatar
By Sierra Rose
at 2019-05-06T20:26
有夠軟...硼鋼勒 偷成椪柑了啦
Kristin avatar
By Kristin
at 2019-05-11T15:25
P4:你怎麼撞成這樣?
Andrew avatar
By Andrew
at 2019-05-15T13:57
自動煞車有動作嗎
Skylar Davis avatar
By Skylar Davis
at 2019-05-17T04:38
這車速根本不到60就這樣了
Bennie avatar
By Bennie
at 2019-05-20T12:10
原本還以為撞到電線桿,這樣的話p4大勝了
Enid avatar
By Enid
at 2019-05-20T23:16
一次成交兩台車
Blanche avatar
By Blanche
at 2019-05-25T18:10
P4電池壞了
Victoria avatar
By Victoria
at 2019-05-30T10:52
這台p4基本上已經這被撞到報廢了 Focus真如新聞所寫護國A柱
Focus真的強
Catherine avatar
By Catherine
at 2019-06-03T05:55
P4虐國產
Faithe avatar
By Faithe
at 2019-06-07T12:16
沒錯 新Focus把進口P4撞到車門無法開啟,贏了不止一點
Una avatar
By Una
at 2019-06-10T15:25
車頭本來就是緩衝,車側要是凹進去人就死了
Daniel avatar
By Daniel
at 2019-06-12T01:04
而且硼鋼又不在車頭,在那酸硼鋼也是好笑
Kama avatar
By Kama
at 2019-06-13T11:10
只能說兩台安全性都有水準以上
Irma avatar
By Irma
at 2019-06-17T08:08
沒辦法 有些人無腦怕人家不知道還到處展現
Elvira avatar
By Elvira
at 2019-06-20T01:50
看某些人狂酸笑死,不懂也能酸連時速都看的出來
Harry avatar
By Harry
at 2019-06-20T19:32
我看快報廢的應該是focus吧,P4電池是在後坐椅子下
Ula avatar
By Ula
at 2019-06-22T07:16
某人連出風口溫度都不知道就別再來丟臉了
Skylar Davis avatar
By Skylar Davis
at 2019-06-26T14:31
國產比較鋁啊 進口豐田頂多酸車美仕跟船吧 現在改T
NGA船的酸點也沒了…
Sandy avatar
By Sandy
at 2019-06-28T04:33
p4:聽說這台國產最硬?
Dorothy avatar
By Dorothy
at 2019-06-28T08:46
福粉:平手啦 平手!
Robert avatar
By Robert
at 2019-06-30T15:01
真鋁
Dorothy avatar
By Dorothy
at 2019-07-02T12:36
https://i.imgur.com/aqSm6fv.jpg
Gilbert avatar
By Gilbert
at 2019-07-05T15:11
硼鋼本來就是用在籠型車體,車頭改成鋁合金,看撞擊也只
有塑料炸裂,鋼樑沒什麼變形
Joe avatar
By Joe
at 2019-07-05T17:22
Focus塑料把prius鈑金撞破哩
Dorothy avatar
By Dorothy
at 2019-07-06T23:48
今天要是Altis撞Prius,你想Altis會縮到怎樣?
Kelly avatar
By Kelly
at 2019-07-10T12:39
用門去接車頭還撞成這樣,硼鋼是叫假的嗎?
Queena avatar
By Queena
at 2019-07-11T05:53
P4在車門旁,本該堅硬保護導向,車頭以撞擊物考量(人?),最
前端會比較軟,中間後面到如上圖,才會比較硬.....
難分軒輊阿其實,如果今天是P4撞MK4?
Connor avatar
By Connor
at 2019-07-13T08:15
原來是進口牛頭 這局看起來平手 勢均力敵
Todd Johnson avatar
By Todd Johnson
at 2019-07-15T05:05
比較好奇維修費
Franklin avatar
By Franklin
at 2019-07-18T11:11
MK4撞得那地方也不是硼鋼 整天扯硼鋼…
Belly avatar
By Belly
at 2019-07-20T03:09
酸硼鋼的人,以為整台車都硼鋼?也太好笑了吧哈哈哈哈哈
Ursula avatar
By Ursula
at 2019-07-20T06:44
P4這張照片不夠清楚 看不出BC柱有沒有受損
Susan avatar
By Susan
at 2019-07-21T13:40
P4側面撞擊安全,有目共睹!
Franklin avatar
By Franklin
at 2019-07-22T21:28
AEB無作用嗎?
Necoo avatar
By Necoo
at 2019-07-24T06:35
撞輸鋁罐的叫什麼?
Eartha avatar
By Eartha
at 2019-07-25T10:00
不過可以確定的是,如果是神A撞肯定GG 樓下幫補 神A撞P3
.jpg
Sierra Rose avatar
By Sierra Rose
at 2019-07-28T01:09
圖看 新焦點的錢面內型鋼鎖點都撞歪了 應該有傷到引擎室
Zora avatar
By Zora
at 2019-08-01T12:22
車架 會不會引擎前半段應該是要裁切部份車架換新焊上去?
Ursula avatar
By Ursula
at 2019-08-05T14:54
不會只有傷到塑料件 看圖車頭內型鋼左邊點都歪了
Emily avatar
By Emily
at 2019-08-09T18:36
椪柑XD
Tristan Cohan avatar
By Tristan Cohan
at 2019-08-10T03:57
那跟黑黑的 就是上面鄉民硼鋼彩色圖 車頭中間綠色的那跟
Jack avatar
By Jack
at 2019-08-12T13:47
保險桿去撞車門還撞輸
Megan avatar
By Megan
at 2019-08-15T16:39
結果很明顯了 扭力樑操控太差了導致焦點失控GG
Thomas avatar
By Thomas
at 2019-08-16T04:50
跟扭力娘操控應該沒關係 兩台車都直行
Charlie avatar
By Charlie
at 2019-08-19T23:23
笑了,浮粉最自豪的車體呢
Mason avatar
By Mason
at 2019-08-21T10:44
糟!撞輸鋁罐變鋁箔包了
Charlie avatar
By Charlie
at 2019-08-21T18:25
很明顯,focus大勝
Liam avatar
By Liam
at 2019-08-23T23:12
鋁罐是指國產的...
Michael avatar
By Michael
at 2019-08-27T06:32
BJ4 https://i.imgur.com/BnpDiMs.jpg
Steve avatar
By Steve
at 2019-08-28T10:45
果然還是進口強....
Leila avatar
By Leila
at 2019-08-31T21:16
https://i.imgur.com/a/VCCJ1LM
Steve avatar
By Steve
at 2019-09-05T03:13
P4真的硬...之前從後面把神A肛到C柱都快沒了
Wallis avatar
By Wallis
at 2019-09-08T11:13
買進口的就對了
Audriana avatar
By Audriana
at 2019-09-10T22:10
不是有AEB嗎
Charlie avatar
By Charlie
at 2019-09-15T08:25
P4這樣撞看起來沒什麼 但也被撞成重大事故車了
Vanessa avatar
By Vanessa
at 2019-09-16T00:47
牛頭牌:癢癢
Valerie avatar
By Valerie
at 2019-09-19T16:13
噗~撞到冷門車
Focus車頭有潰縮設計,Prius側面當然不能潰縮
所以才有這種結果
Anthony avatar
By Anthony
at 2019-09-20T02:04
買進口就對了 P4比較強
Jessica avatar
By Jessica
at 2019-09-23T13:58
這時候說國產車安全的趕快出來
Aaliyah avatar
By Aaliyah
at 2019-09-26T01:17
很安全啊 你哪裡看到不安全 ABC柱有潰縮?
Margaret avatar
By Margaret
at 2019-09-28T05:26
新聞還沒出來以前,一堆狂捧焦點,結果看了照片根本
輸慘了
Yedda avatar
By Yedda
at 2019-10-01T03:43
Focus引擎室沒有硼鋼啊,側面iihs跟prius沒差多少
https://i.imgur.com/SSB6ty6.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/X821Ew9.jpg
Mia avatar
By Mia
at 2019-10-04T19:09
紅色籠型結構的才是硼鋼
Barb Cronin avatar
By Barb Cronin
at 2019-10-07T00:14
安全都不錯吧,還真能酸,一堆酸民 看推文就能知道哈哈
Elvira avatar
By Elvira
at 2019-10-10T14:46
所以現在變成Focus車頭軟是正常 其他車就不正常 咦?
Christine avatar
By Christine
at 2019-10-14T09:17
車頭哪裡軟? 防撞鋼樑都還在那邊沒彎 = =
Hedda avatar
By Hedda
at 2019-10-17T08:27
https://i.imgur.com/Gsm0MuC.jpg
Susan avatar
By Susan
at 2019-10-20T04:45
車頭撞人家車門還撞爛笑死
Kristin avatar
By Kristin
at 2019-10-21T01:00
https://i.imgur.com/huOtAQP.jpg
Genevieve avatar
By Genevieve
at 2019-10-24T19:00
Prius 這側面也太強@@
Ophelia avatar
By Ophelia
at 2019-10-26T04:14
P4 就是強!
Queena avatar
By Queena
at 2019-10-28T01:06
很想知道focus的AEB有沒有作用
Jacob avatar
By Jacob
at 2019-10-30T15:39
P4車主在社團內回應,車門還打的開@@
Kumar avatar
By Kumar
at 2019-11-03T21:40
https://i.imgur.com/Z5JZe7V.jpg
Elma avatar
By Elma
at 2019-11-06T14:31
prius超過980mpa共19%,focus 1300mpa有33%
Daph Bay avatar
By Daph Bay
at 2019-11-10T02:35
P4竟然連車窗玻璃都沒破…
Wallis avatar
By Wallis
at 2019-11-15T01:08
基本上prius最硬就是在車門,跟現在新世代車體都類似
Zanna avatar
By Zanna
at 2019-11-15T20:46
車頭爛成這樣要報廢了,依照過去邏輯,這根本紙糊
Bennie avatar
By Bennie
at 2019-11-17T00:06
立場反過來撞 不知道會怎樣 呵呵
Frederic avatar
By Frederic
at 2019-11-21T13:53
噗 當天還一堆福祿仔吹剛性不錯
Jessica avatar
By Jessica
at 2019-11-22T14:53
這個撞擊結果叫做符號預期,focus引擎室沒有硼鋼,去撞Pr
ius最高剛性的車門跟B柱,表示兩家的車體剛性圖都是沒有
騙人的
Michael avatar
By Michael
at 2019-11-24T17:38
雙方都安全下莊,無人受傷
Olga avatar
By Olga
at 2019-11-26T08:35
進口Prius 真的可以買!
Gilbert avatar
By Gilbert
at 2019-11-28T03:34
TNGA Altis剛性比Prius更高
Ula avatar
By Ula
at 2019-11-30T21:58
感覺變相幫prius宣傳XDDDDDD
Audriana avatar
By Audriana
at 2019-12-01T19:01
Prius不要找啥理科太太啦,這才是真廣告
Mia avatar
By Mia
at 2019-12-03T23:26
P4也太強,不只車窗沒破,門還打得開,根本大勝
Caitlin avatar
By Caitlin
at 2019-12-06T23:47
顆顆~車版突然理性起來了,如果logo互換肯定狂酸鋁罐
Adele avatar
By Adele
at 2019-12-07T08:39
p4最脆弱側面讓你~ 棚甘?
Kyle avatar
By Kyle
at 2019-12-07T19:36
看起來P4真的不錯,改款前贏剛改款的...
Daph Bay avatar
By Daph Bay
at 2019-12-12T16:53
P4直接把focus壓在地上摩擦耶
Joe avatar
By Joe
at 2019-12-13T06:31
P4直接把焦點號按在地上磨擦
Emma avatar
By Emma
at 2019-12-16T18:16
可憐福錄仔 不止多連桿沒了 練硼鋼都輸 幫Q
Olivia avatar
By Olivia
at 2019-12-17T10:38
硼鋼還是椪柑???
Rosalind avatar
By Rosalind
at 2019-12-19T12:31
進口車就是進口車
Jacky avatar
By Jacky
at 2019-12-19T14:35
P4除了外觀,沒有缺點了XD 你不看動力的話
Ethan avatar
By Ethan
at 2019-12-23T18:17
國慘畢竟是國慘 遇上進口車還是閃遠一點比較安全
Queena avatar
By Queena
at 2019-12-27T23:45
側面沒差多少 可惜國慘應該還是被屌打
Gary avatar
By Gary
at 2019-12-28T02:06
什麼車不撞撞Prius = =
Candice avatar
By Candice
at 2019-12-30T03:33
國產…
Caitlin avatar
By Caitlin
at 2020-01-02T10:15
給P4個推
Regina avatar
By Regina
at 2020-01-07T02:04
不是有AEB 怎麼會碰成這樣?
Steve avatar
By Steve
at 2020-01-07T20:45
P4可是堂堂百萬等級的,拿來比神A?
Olivia avatar
By Olivia
at 2020-01-09T00:27
進口大贏國產
Linda avatar
By Linda
at 2020-01-12T05:07
推文好多無腦酸 XDDD
Leila avatar
By Leila
at 2020-01-15T17:48
牛車光凹個引擎蓋就能被叫鋁罐了好嗎XD
Agatha avatar
By Agatha
at 2020-01-16T15:04
越來越想看新神A新焦點對決了
Rosalind avatar
By Rosalind
at 2020-01-17T05:35
同樣國產才有意思啊
Carolina Franco avatar
By Carolina Franco
at 2020-01-17T13:24
所以那個AEB呢?
Charlotte avatar
By Charlotte
at 2020-01-19T12:47
原來和泰的車煞車都不需要距離,真好笑XD
Brianna avatar
By Brianna
at 2020-01-23T12:11
可撥鋁罐福
Edith avatar
By Edith
at 2020-01-24T23:00
我也想知道AEB呢
Mia avatar
By Mia
at 2020-01-26T17:30
國產focus也有跟國外一樣的鋼材嗎?
Isabella avatar
By Isabella
at 2020-01-27T23:47
P4:癢癢D啊
John avatar
By John
at 2020-01-31T01:23
兩台都還好呀
Regina avatar
By Regina
at 2020-02-03T15:26
看P4那樣還以為是摩托車撞的,福特看起來像撞電線桿
Kelly avatar
By Kelly
at 2020-02-07T14:26
正面撞擊難道會無損嗎..
George avatar
By George
at 2020-02-12T13:22
側撞贏正撞…高下立判
James avatar
By James
at 2020-02-12T19:31
P4明明是大勝 P4是被側撞耶 Focus前面還被撞爛
Necoo avatar
By Necoo
at 2020-02-14T02:35
超扯 牛頭完勝
Hardy avatar
By Hardy
at 2020-02-14T16:14
福粉:不管啦 硼鋼耶 潰縮區耶 扭力樑耶 覺得不輸
Doris avatar
By Doris
at 2020-02-15T17:39
這一撞是在助攻吧!
Ivy avatar
By Ivy
at 2020-02-20T13:20
不曉得門還可以打開嗎
Queena avatar
By Queena
at 2020-02-22T14:41
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVL26a-rQ6o
Rebecca avatar
By Rebecca
at 2020-02-25T06:30
側面本來就要比較硬 因為沒有緩衝區 看一下Fiesta吧
Lucy avatar
By Lucy
at 2020-02-29T16:17
這樣我要不要說2012年的Fiesta小車就跟破百Prius一樣硬?
Xanthe avatar
By Xanthe
at 2020-03-05T06:08
河粉被打臉囉XDD
Dinah avatar
By Dinah
at 2020-03-09T08:48
從來沒人說福特不硬啊,只是很多人不信豐田也有硬的,
看到豐田就要說鋁,顆顆
Candice avatar
By Candice
at 2020-03-13T00:57
覺得當初P4真是買對了~
Poppy avatar
By Poppy
at 2020-03-14T14:03
本來側面設計就要更硬不能潰縮 不然是想撞死人啊?
Linda avatar
By Linda
at 2020-03-17T14:11
我看還是很多人找到機會酸福特 椪柑不是都出場了XD
Damian avatar
By Damian
at 2020-03-20T14:04
鋁罐本來就指國產牛而已 和牛還不錯啊
Bennie avatar
By Bennie
at 2020-03-20T17:00
都有人貼圖給你看了還在側邊最軟,酸之前睜眼用點腦很難?
Irma avatar
By Irma
at 2020-03-22T01:12
在喊AEB的,AEB對側邊衝出來的東西無法偵測喔,兩台都有
AEB,P4只有告警,兩台都無法作動,AEB只對前方有效
Rachel avatar
By Rachel
at 2020-03-25T10:35
——駐版業務護航中—-
Ivy avatar
By Ivy
at 2020-03-29T05:38
還是買進口的好了..
Connor avatar
By Connor
at 2020-03-31T23:48
https://i.imgur.com/vnYimIP.jpg
幫樓上補的
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By Skylar DavisLinda
at 2020-04-02T15:53
P4被側撞才這樣的應該是大勝吧
Daph Bay avatar
By Daph Bay
at 2020-04-03T11:22
各種氣不過拿國產神a救援
Blanche avatar
By Blanche
at 2020-04-04T04:25
福特鈑金很厚,哈哈哈哈哈哈
Eartha avatar
By Eartha
at 2020-04-08T13:13
結果被T 牌屌虐
Jake avatar
By Jake
at 2020-04-10T16:30
p4側邊小損傷算很粗勇了
Elma avatar
By Elma
at 2020-04-15T04:56
碰柑笑死
James avatar
By James
at 2020-04-18T01:06
P4很安心
Irma avatar
By Irma
at 2020-04-20T03:30
和泰:馬德本來想p4.5亂開價要幫新神A抬轎
Bennie avatar
By Bennie
at 2020-04-23T19:09
有些酸酸在酸之前真的需要智力測驗 完全無腦的酸
Brianna avatar
By Brianna
at 2020-04-27T08:26
挖P4只有門凹下去一點跟沒事一樣OAO
Barb Cronin avatar
By Barb Cronin
at 2020-05-02T07:22
兩台表現都很不錯
Dorothy avatar
By Dorothy
at 2020-05-02T11:30
鋁罐車業代大反撲
Tracy avatar
By Tracy
at 2020-05-06T23:38
P4 真的強 國產車沒得比
Rebecca avatar
By Rebecca
at 2020-05-08T09:08
朋友本來還在考慮,看到新聞直接下訂PRIUS 4.5了XD
Blanche avatar
By Blanche
at 2020-05-12T20:23
福祿仔不是很硬?
Kyle avatar
By Kyle
at 2020-05-13T06:50
fiesta確實很硬

colt plus 2018式避震與2010式避震

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By Sierra Rose
at 2019-02-25T18:14
目前小弟的2010年colt plus 避震漏油 考慮要換掉 身邊剛好有朋友換下來的避震 他的車是2018年式的原廠避震 請問那組避震可以裝在我的車上嗎? 裝了車會不會導致車高改變無法驗車? 感謝大家的回應 ----- Sent from JPTT on my iPhone - ...

幫忙選車 愛你們

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By Lucy
at 2019-02-25T17:43
各位大大好 小弟想幫家父買台車孝敬他 預算200-250 家父60歲 可接受二手 外型霸氣 空間堪比teana2.5 室外車 懇請各位大大給個意見 感激不盡 ----- Sent from JPTT on my iPhone - ...

有版友加裝過isofix嗎?

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By Faithe
at 2019-02-25T17:22
各位勁戰車友大家好 我的國慘之光台灣寶時捷沒有熄火加不滿油的U7後座isofix只有一組.... (阿政府不是鼓勵生育嗎? 車子這麼大台 只配一組是蝦小) 現在小寶出生滿月 勢必後座要再多一個安全座椅... 但是我又不想綁安全帶atatand#34; (感覺麻煩又不穩固) 我問了一下 說改裝一組要35 ...

ford escape 3.0油耗改善請益

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By Sierra Rose
at 2019-02-25T17:13
安安 各位大家好 我有一台03年的escape 3.0 對於它的馬力十分滿足 在高速上,明明開到120了,可是就覺得好像開100的感覺,會不知不覺的越來越快atat 不過他的缺點就是市區靠盃耗油 想詢問板上各位更換機油番數或是加紅線汽油精是否能夠改善油耗問題呢? 還是這就是3.0的宿命QQ - ...

馬3、CX3、日蝕選擇

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By Tracy
at 2019-02-25T16:49
原本開二手車,因為發電機有問題已不適合在上高速公路所以打算換車問問大家意見 用車需求: 平日每天上班、假日偶爾跑高速去玩,基本上兩人乘坐很少載人,身高沒有超過180, 基本上後車箱可以讓後座躺平即可(放腳踏車用) 預算:80~90左右 目前主要在意項目: 1.安全性 2.目標8~10年才有可能考慮第二 ...