日本人問我歪L Mazda在台灣怎麼那麼夯? - 汽車
By Donna
at 2016-05-12T10:25
at 2016-05-12T10:25
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昨天接待一批日本客戶(主管階級的)
他說來到台灣 路上看到很多歪L跟馬自達感到很好奇
他跟我說 馬自達在日本 雖然也是有固定的市占率
但是離豐田 本田 Nissan還是有一段距離
甚至說出 其實Mazda在日本不是受到親賴的車子 為什麼台灣人那麼愛
他還有說 還有豐田的Rav4根本沒人要開 在台灣怎麼能見度這麼高
我跟他說 相同價位同等級的車 可以買到日本進口的 Rav4 Mazda 3 應該是主要的原因
後來他說 歪L在日本也沒甚麼人在開 台灣人怎麼那麼愛
頓時間感到很納悶 也不知道原因 也很好奇這個日本人是不是亂說的
怎麼可能連原產國日本 都不喜歡自己國家豐田集團的歪L
後來回家查文章 找到一篇2015年的日本銷售排行
Rank Brand 銷售量 市占率
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1 Toyota 416.404 26.4%
2 Honda 238.662 15.1%
3 Nissan 206.401 13.1%
4 Daihatsu 203.621 12.9%
5 Suzuki 188.636 12.0%
6 Mazda 82.059 5.2%
7 Subaru 58.942 3.7%
8 Mitsubishi 35.692 2.3%
9 Isuzu 22.418 1.4%
10 Mercedes 18.827 1.2%
11 Hino 18.124 1.2%
12 Volkswagen 18.024 1.1%
13 Lexus 12.371 0.8%
14 Mitsubishi Fuso 12.115 0.8%
15 BMW 11.924 0.8%
16 Audi 8.395 0.5%
17 Mini 5.453 0.3%
18 Volvo 3.462 0.2%
19 Jeep 1.978 0.1%
20 Renault 1.679 0.1%
21 Peugeot 1.549 0.1%
台灣人超愛的歪L真的賣得很不好
別說賓士屌打他(比歪L多五成市占率) 連福斯都比他強
BMW也跟他平起平坐
為什麼 連日本人都不愛開的歪L
台灣人會那麼愛呢?
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推 peterliam: 我還想問T牌怎麼到哪市占率都高成那樣 05/12 10:29
推 arains: 我去日本有看到掛頭又大的rx 05/12 10:29
推 Cancervi: 他們很多都買油電,如果80萬可以買到P4我也想買! 05/12 10:30
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→ chewie: 以前這些車系全部掛Toyota牌子 最近(2012)才開始要改的 05/12 10:31
推 xwingxwing: 歪L是主打北美市場 05/12 10:31
→ chewie: LEXUS是為了打破北美早年市場 Toyota=便宜小車印象才創的 05/12 10:32
推 seemoon2000: 日本的Toyota和Honda原車型就很好 只是台灣國慘很雷 05/12 10:32
→ chewie: 對日本人來說 Toyota這個牌子就包括天皇用車到一般用車了 05/12 10:32
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推 inwindwei: 日本Prius c在日本賣6x萬,到台灣賣8x萬 05/12 10:35
推 xuans: 如果在日本是爛牌 來台灣還賣的嚇嚇叫 就可以突顯出國產車 05/12 10:35
→ xuans: 有多不足 05/12 10:35
推 ouyang: 日本人好料都留國內啊 罵自答 算比較有誠意的了 05/12 10:35
推 ker5566: 賣一樣的車再來比 05/12 10:36
推 ErnestKou: PC 6X萬那我看Yaris可能只剩4X,台灣還是Yaris大勝XD 05/12 10:36
→ ErnestKou: 台灣人開1A2B1L叫做「圓夢」,日本似乎不吃這套,只能 05/12 10:38
→ ErnestKou: 說國情不同 05/12 10:38
推 xwingxwing: 日本很流行kcar 車市也會影響吧 05/12 10:38
噓 mild7no1: 日本人不懂啦!通通都是兩百五!直上馬川! 05/12 10:38
推 chewie: 日本要考慮車位 要圓夢代價更高 05/12 10:38
推 keroromoa: 有哪個國家的品牌不是好料留國內的?啊... 05/12 10:40
→ KGSox: 日本雙B明明就很多 很多台灣沒有的車款都從日本來的 05/12 10:41
→ MWMWMWMWMW: 日本人很重視品質的,喜美第二名 05/12 10:41
推 Yench: 歪L很多車款在日本掛牛頭牌的logo 05/12 10:42
推 keroromoa: 日本哪來的喜美 05/12 10:42
推 qazxc312: 馬川來台灣還是拔了I eloop 05/12 10:42
推 Rocker5566: 因為日本可以買到皇冠 氣派豪華程度打爆台灣歪L 日本 05/12 10:43
→ Rocker5566: 皇冠能見度超高 05/12 10:43
→ Yench: 馬自達則不是主流汽車公司 05/12 10:43
推 ru04hj4: 歪L在日本有些不是掛歪L 05/12 10:43
推 Bboykeyes: 日本三菱居然賣這麼差 xD 05/12 10:45
→ ru04hj4: 台灣馬自達再多還是賣輸神A 05/12 10:45
推 steverson: 日本雙B沒很多吧 跟台灣比差多了 05/12 10:45
推 TommyHilfige: 把不是掛歪L的歪L算進去 不知道屌打賓士幾條街 05/12 10:46
推 FlashMan: 台灣國慘車太高貴 進口平價馬川樂勝 05/12 10:46
→ steverson: 倒是台灣超過10年的老車超多 05/12 10:47
→ TommyHilfige: 而且你那位日本朋友的水準應該不高 05/12 10:47
推 jameskoko: Rav4歪L跟mazda為何賣的好?因為同價位其他車都盤子價 05/12 10:48
→ jameskoko: 不然就配備全拔啊 05/12 10:48
→ TommyHilfige: 歪L是非常後期才回日本 北美、台灣市占高奇怪嗎 05/12 10:48
推 RDSON: 豐田潮屌 台灣代理商更屌 05/12 10:49
→ TommyHilfige: 12.3%市占叫沒什麼人開 那更後面的是車廠要倒了嗎 05/12 10:49
→ TommyHilfige: Sorry~看錯數字 05/12 10:50
推 Tosca: 新宿還蠻常看到RX450h啊 05/12 10:51
→ TommyHilfige: 掛歪L的排豪華車第二 講成賣很爛、人沒開 05/12 10:51
→ cabin2501: 日本友人有一台crown royal 跟台灣歪L比起來更讚 05/12 10:52
→ abyssa1: 把kcar扣掉數據就差很多啦 05/12 10:53
推 sobia: 日本很多L都掛T的牌子啊... 05/12 10:53
推 kobegod5566: 我在京阪神看到很多雙B跟AUDI欸.. 05/12 10:54
推 inleuyen: 日本那麼多k-car或是他們超愛買箱型車怎不說 05/12 10:56
推 Yench: 本田台灣賣不好 純粹是價錢跟金肅 還有長輩的老印象 05/12 10:56
→ greeniguana: 1.2%MB和0.8%L為什麼是差5成? 05/12 10:57
噓 SQUAD12345: 我比較好奇這麼容易理解的問題你為什麼還要問? 05/12 10:59
→ SQUAD12345: 日本跟台灣賣的車有一樣嗎? 05/12 10:59
推 BlueJet0501: 安全、科技配備、價錢,不就是這幾個因素嗎? 05/12 11:00
推 sdhpipt: 日本的歪L現在超夯好嘛 你朋友根本就不懂 XD 05/12 11:01
推 devil4227: 前天剛到大阪,已經看到好幾台86了,所得高車價低,要 05/12 11:01
→ devil4227: 買似乎很簡單 05/12 11:01
→ chewie: 鏽影響沒那麼嚴重啦 主要還是老喜美的的印象跟台本的操作 05/12 11:02
→ TommyHilfige: 覺得你朋友根本不懂車 05/12 11:03
→ sdhpipt: 馬自達也不能說非主流啦 廣島的傳統車廠 歷史悠久了 05/12 11:06
→ jcchiou: 沒他發現台灣雙B滿街跑嗎? 05/12 11:07
→ sdhpipt: 當年亨利福特二世訪日 指名參觀車廠就馬自達的轉子引擎 05/12 11:07
推 donny123: 你去看看2016 Harrier,再來決定要不要買RAV4 05/12 11:09
→ Oo5566: 他可能對車不熟日本很多歪L掛T牌賣 Mazda市佔率跟台差不多 05/12 11:12
推 z01170117: 皇冠超棒的 坐起來很爽 05/12 11:15
推 airmike: 在台灣雙B已經多到以為是國民車好嗎 05/12 11:16
→ dslite: 東京歐洲車很多 05/12 11:20
噓 razor99: 台灣和泰T牌拔配備拔太兇,不然幹嘛買歪L 05/12 11:35
推 drexlerking: 你有跟日本朋友介紹我們當地的二安ABS國慘車嗎?, 05/12 11:47
→ drexlerking: 還有沒ABS的嚇嚇他 05/12 11:47
推 mim5566: 日本好料都放他們本國的國產車了,馬自達台灣算有誠意了 05/12 11:48
→ mim5566: 台灣人當然買單 05/12 11:48
→ drexlerking: peugeot日本年售1500輛,台灣1000輛,一路走來始終如 05/12 11:48
→ drexlerking: 一... 05/12 11:48
→ yeeroyuy: 這位日本人根本搞不清楚自己國內市場吧... 05/12 11:54
噓 a0607152: 明明就T牌市佔率跟日本差最多,台灣可是30Up噎 05/12 11:54
→ dslite: 日本不是40Up 05/12 11:55
推 Boss1983: where is FORD? 05/12 11:56
推 windbomb: Daihatsu跟Suzuki 市佔好高 05/12 11:57
→ chewie: 福特退出日本與印尼了... 05/12 11:57
推 chewie: Daihatsu=Toyota旗下Kcar廠牌 雖然還是有幾款掛toyota牌子 05/12 12:00
噓 PURELOVEGAE: 不懂裝懂。 05/12 12:06
推 kmunatural: 你可以去看Mazda 在德國的銷售量就知道了 05/12 12:09
推 ErnestKou: 跟雙田比,其他品牌都是非主流無誤 05/12 12:14
→ TalkToMe: 不買RAV4日本人會買哪台??? 05/12 12:20
推 molukino: 你沒有給他看台灣的Toyota是甚麼模樣? 05/12 12:25
→ holyduck: 青睞 05/12 12:28
推 linking56: 跟他說第二名鬼島產的會生鏽第三名代理為了賣自己的車 05/12 12:34
→ linking56: 把配備偷光賣盤子價,大發沒賣,剩下窮人買河太,有錢 05/12 12:35
→ linking56: 的買豐田跟松田,更有錢的就買ㄥ,以上。 05/12 12:35
噓 iverson22: 你真的會看數字? 05/12 12:40
噓 ALiGoo: 台灣豐田跟日本豐田是一樣的東西嗎 至少馬自達是一樣的 05/12 12:45
推 aal: 有皇冠買誰要買歪L 05/12 12:53
噓 abc801224: 因為台灣是東南亞 05/12 12:53
→ foxis: 因為台廠有台廠的玩法 05/12 12:53
噓 eipduolc: 因為有皇冠 05/12 12:59
推 wjes30325: 國情本來就很不一樣了 話說個人認為在日本玩古董車老 05/12 13:06
→ wjes30325: 車的才是真有錢有閒 日本妹婿說日本買車絕大部分買實 05/12 13:06
→ wjes30325: 用 台灣真的很多人把雙b當夢想 反之日本都是實用舒服 05/12 13:07
→ wjes30325: 為主 05/12 13:07
噓 zlexmark: 不懂裝懂 05/12 13:07
噓 largescale: 不懂裝懂+1 ㄥ很多車在日本是掛Toyota 05/12 13:10
推 cca1109: 你朋友根本錐 05/12 13:12
→ Raikkonen01: 台版跟日版配備差一大堆,MAZDA是最接接近的,當然買 05/12 13:45
噓 kobe7610: 台灣國產T牌是垃圾、裕隆日產是渣 當然日本原廠的馬自達 05/12 13:46
→ kobe7610: 台灣會夯啊 05/12 13:46
→ Gunslinger: 因為在台灣買雙B是夢想 在日本買雙B是想都不敢想 05/12 13:47
→ Gunslinger: 汽車是炫耀財在日本也是一樣的 只是他們的國產車廠有 05/12 13:48
→ Gunslinger: 推出許多平價實用車款 還有奇特的輕自動車級距 05/12 13:48
→ Gunslinger: 所以實用派不用捏著XX也能實現擁車夢 05/12 13:49
噓 Bv999: 歪L本來就是主攻海外市場如;北美。還有日本人偏愛雙B和Aud 05/12 13:50
→ Bv999: i 05/12 13:50
噓 blackmamba24: 幾個日本人能代表什麼..... 05/12 14:47
→ blackmamba24: 新聞每天報有人吸毒/砍人/搶劫 真正比例佔多少.. 05/12 14:48
噓 KerLu: 日本沒賣rav4新款 05/12 15:52
噓 asdfglkj: 去過幾趟日本真心覺得大部分日本人都開那種小排氣量的 05/12 15:54
→ asdfglkj: 方塊麵包車! 05/12 15:54
噓 zihquei70217: 你文組喔?1.2%-0.8%=50%? 05/12 16:57
推 dragonsleep: 日本kcar比較夯 印象中日本一般轎車需要是營業車輛 05/12 17:40
→ dragonsleep: 或是提出停車位所有權證明才能買 05/12 17:40
→ Gunslinger: 停車位證明應該是東京都那種都會區才需要吧 05/12 17:46
噓 darkmonster: 國產賣國人甚麼配備 日本產賣日本人甚麼配備 05/12 19:20
推 linking56: 因為這篇跑去逛日本豐田網站,Crown好讚啊 05/12 21:00
推 rick6304: 好羨慕排名都是國產車 05/13 02:08
推 JAY751016: 去廣島就比較多松田了 05/13 11:34
推 horb: 日本fit油電版 還比臺灣fit便宜十萬 05/13 20:28
※ 編輯: R75 (36.237.202.205), 05/17/2016 16:28:27 推 jeff6165: BMW在日本的能見度也蠻高的啊O_O 至少當 05/26 13:22
→ jeff6165: 時去的時候是這樣 05/26 13:22
推 LUXGEN711: 因為日本投優大有高階車種~近幾年才改掛歪L牌 懂????? 05/31 13:28
→ LUXGEN711: 而且日本人不愛開大車的~有點懷疑你是否真的接觸過 XDD 05/31 13:28
→ LUXGEN711: 台灣頭優大連AVALON這種好車都捨不得進了還妄想Crown? 05/31 13:30
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