為什麼volvo在台灣的市佔不高 - 汽車
By Mason
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※ 引述《a27417332 (等號卡比)》之銘言:
: ※ 引述《gingiby (gingiby)》之銘言:
: : 標題: Re: [問題] 為什麼volvo在台灣的市佔不高
: : 時間: Mon Oct 17 06:30:08 2016
: : 我很希望Volvo可以把自己沒有考好的部分去加強改進
: : 我不要求太多 把IIHS成績考得跟其他拿滿分的車廠一樣就好
: : 別家車廠都做得到 我相信Volvo應該也做得到才是
: : 畢竟XC60的主動安全分數一直停留在5分已經4年了
: 關於這部分的話,其實我也是很感到意外。
: 因為我之前也是覺得Volvo明明是主動防撞的先驅者,怎麼一直到XC90才有改進。
: 最近家裡有要換車,所以在查資料的過程我也順便查了一下到底City Safety的作
: 動時速是多少,才發現到一件很微妙的事情:
: IIHS的資料可能並不完全正確。
: 首先先看看Wiki對於City Safety怎麼說:
: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/City_safety
: City Safety is an auto brake technology that assists in reducing or avoiding t
: raffic accidents at speeds up to 30 km/h (19 mph) in vehicles using City Safety
: Generation I.
: Later models using City Safety Generation II can stop at 50 km/h (31 mph).
: All cars sold by Volvo Cars with a Model Year of 2014 or later is equipped with
: City Safety Generation II, with an exception of the XC90 (2002-2014).
: The Volvo V40 was the first car to make use of City Safety Generation II when
: it was released 2012, and since then other cars in the line up has gotten the
: same system.
: 從這之中可以發現,City Safety在新的XC90出來以前是有兩代的。
: 而第一代City Safety我沒記錯的話,是XC60首先搭配的,第二代則是V40首先搭配的。
: 接著看看IIHS的網頁,會發現Volvo裡面就是沒測到V40 XD
: 但是依照Wiki的說法,在2014以後的產品都全面換上第二代的City Safety了。
: IIHS在Front Crash Prevention裡面的說法:
: Applies to 2013-16 models
: System details
: Optional Collision Warning with Full Auto Brake and Pedestrian Detection
: Standard City Safety
: Package name
: Optional Technology Package
: 然後我點了大部分現在還在賣的Volvo車款,都發現裡面給的資訊是說2013-16都適用。
: 可見只有幾種可能導致這種結果:
: 1.測試單位當地都沒進第二代的產品,這點我覺得可能性不高,但我沒有查證。
: 2.實際上IIHS不知道有第二代,所以以為現行的都跟第一代是一樣的結果。
: 3.根本就是第二代的系統太爛喇!
: 不過我又找到了一個影片,來自Fifth Gear的測試影片,這應該夠有公信力了。
: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PzHM6PVTjXo
: 3:16秒的地方可以清楚看到大概是從時速28mph煞停的。
: 之後的每項測試也都表現了第二代City Safety的實力。
: 所以結論就是,我認為IIHS不知道有第二代或是網頁沒更正的可能性最大。
: 但是我實在是找不到其他資料證明台灣目前引進的是不是第二代City Safety XDlll
: 就靠相信自己的車會煞停或許會比較開心一點(?)
: 歡迎打臉,我自己當初查到這件事情的時候也算是嚇到。
: 不過我自己這樣找下來,發現第一代跟第二代有差別的資訊還真是有夠少的。
: http://www.euroncap.com/en/vehicle-safety/safety-campaigns/2013-aeb-tests/
: 同場加映:在那年的測試結果,E class的看起來是最強的。
: 只是在台灣買E class選上智慧駕駛輔助套件,不知道要花多少錢了...
: (雖然C class就可以選,但要買到不錯的配備也不少錢)
: 在兩百萬以內,台灣能買到有全套TSP+的大概沒幾家了...
自己回自己的文(?)
想說是接續上次的,所以就不另起標題了。
最近IIHS公布了2017的TSP了,沒想到90系列全部因為頭燈爆掉XD
回歸正題,這次最讓我意外的是,60系列的Front Crash Prevention還是沒滿分,
但是標題已經改成Applies to 2017 Models......
不知道到底是有沒有重測,還是真的就是沒有這能力。
題外話,車版的風氣好像一向都很玄妙?感覺Volvo在板上蠻常被酸的?
追加:
其實我真的本意是想問到底60系列的煞車能力是不是滿分啦......
沒想到反而大家都在回題外話,我很好奇到底是網站測試數據沒更新還是怎樣QQ
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: ※ 引述《gingiby (gingiby)》之銘言:
: : 標題: Re: [問題] 為什麼volvo在台灣的市佔不高
: : 時間: Mon Oct 17 06:30:08 2016
: : 我很希望Volvo可以把自己沒有考好的部分去加強改進
: : 我不要求太多 把IIHS成績考得跟其他拿滿分的車廠一樣就好
: : 別家車廠都做得到 我相信Volvo應該也做得到才是
: : 畢竟XC60的主動安全分數一直停留在5分已經4年了
: 關於這部分的話,其實我也是很感到意外。
: 因為我之前也是覺得Volvo明明是主動防撞的先驅者,怎麼一直到XC90才有改進。
: 最近家裡有要換車,所以在查資料的過程我也順便查了一下到底City Safety的作
: 動時速是多少,才發現到一件很微妙的事情:
: IIHS的資料可能並不完全正確。
: 首先先看看Wiki對於City Safety怎麼說:
: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/City_safety
: City Safety is an auto brake technology that assists in reducing or avoiding t
: raffic accidents at speeds up to 30 km/h (19 mph) in vehicles using City Safety
: Generation I.
: Later models using City Safety Generation II can stop at 50 km/h (31 mph).
: All cars sold by Volvo Cars with a Model Year of 2014 or later is equipped with
: City Safety Generation II, with an exception of the XC90 (2002-2014).
: The Volvo V40 was the first car to make use of City Safety Generation II when
: it was released 2012, and since then other cars in the line up has gotten the
: same system.
: 從這之中可以發現,City Safety在新的XC90出來以前是有兩代的。
: 而第一代City Safety我沒記錯的話,是XC60首先搭配的,第二代則是V40首先搭配的。
: 接著看看IIHS的網頁,會發現Volvo裡面就是沒測到V40 XD
: 但是依照Wiki的說法,在2014以後的產品都全面換上第二代的City Safety了。
: IIHS在Front Crash Prevention裡面的說法:
: Applies to 2013-16 models
: System details
: Optional Collision Warning with Full Auto Brake and Pedestrian Detection
: Standard City Safety
: Package name
: Optional Technology Package
: 然後我點了大部分現在還在賣的Volvo車款,都發現裡面給的資訊是說2013-16都適用。
: 可見只有幾種可能導致這種結果:
: 1.測試單位當地都沒進第二代的產品,這點我覺得可能性不高,但我沒有查證。
: 2.實際上IIHS不知道有第二代,所以以為現行的都跟第一代是一樣的結果。
: 3.根本就是第二代的系統太爛喇!
: 不過我又找到了一個影片,來自Fifth Gear的測試影片,這應該夠有公信力了。
: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PzHM6PVTjXo
: 之後的每項測試也都表現了第二代City Safety的實力。
: 所以結論就是,我認為IIHS不知道有第二代或是網頁沒更正的可能性最大。
: 但是我實在是找不到其他資料證明台灣目前引進的是不是第二代City Safety XDlll
: 就靠相信自己的車會煞停或許會比較開心一點(?)
: 歡迎打臉,我自己當初查到這件事情的時候也算是嚇到。
: 不過我自己這樣找下來,發現第一代跟第二代有差別的資訊還真是有夠少的。
: http://www.euroncap.com/en/vehicle-safety/safety-campaigns/2013-aeb-tests/
: 同場加映:在那年的測試結果,E class的看起來是最強的。
: 只是在台灣買E class選上智慧駕駛輔助套件,不知道要花多少錢了...
: (雖然C class就可以選,但要買到不錯的配備也不少錢)
: 在兩百萬以內,台灣能買到有全套TSP+的大概沒幾家了...
自己回自己的文(?)
想說是接續上次的,所以就不另起標題了。
最近IIHS公布了2017的TSP了,沒想到90系列全部因為頭燈爆掉XD
回歸正題,這次最讓我意外的是,60系列的Front Crash Prevention還是沒滿分,
但是標題已經改成Applies to 2017 Models......
不知道到底是有沒有重測,還是真的就是沒有這能力。
題外話,車版的風氣好像一向都很玄妙?感覺Volvo在板上蠻常被酸的?
追加:
其實我真的本意是想問到底60系列的煞車能力是不是滿分啦......
沒想到反而大家都在回題外話,我很好奇到底是網站測試數據沒更新還是怎樣QQ
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