為何油車車主這麼缺德? - 汽車
By Edward Lewis
at 2020-06-07T23:09
at 2020-06-07T23:09
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※ 引述《kashima228 (承)》之銘言:
: 標題: Re: [討論] 為何油車車主這麼缺德?
: 時間: Sun Jun 7 20:19:08 2020
: 推 Gamer1028: 最愛抓的炭排來說 都是整台車從電池 發電 巴拉巴拉 06/07 21:07
: → Gamer1028: 一直到上路使用 來跟 "單一油車使用" 來比 06/07 21:08
: → Gamer1028: 研究幾乎都顯示電車碳排會逐年下降 但是內燃機效率 06/07 21:08
: 我就問你一個問題
: 所以現階段有比油車低了嗎?
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41893-020-0488-7
Nature的paper開示,對,就是比油車低
但我懂,與油車大爺感覺不符的一概都不可信
所以Nature是在放屁製造碳排
: → s7024546: 電車車重隨便都別人的1.5倍以上,能源效率兩倍起跳也只 06/07 21:37
: → s7024546: 是剛好及格吧 06/07 21:37
: → s7024546: 最小台的model3車重多少自己不會google嗎? 06/07 21:52
剛隨便找個尺寸馬力差不多的BMW M3
BMW M3 Competition 1560kg, 1.5倍就是2,340kg
Model 3 P 1847kg...............說好的1.5倍以上?
所以1.5倍哪裡來的? 拿Yaris來比的話是超過1.5倍啦,只不過
Yaris Model 3
車長 4150 4694
車寬 1730 1849
車高 1530 1443
馬力 107 490
車重 1135 1847
所以你的隨便找一台,是找一台體積馬力甚至車體強度低很多的鋁罐小車來比?
: 噓 shamanlin: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41893-020-0488-7 06/07 22:00
: → shamanlin: 全部從頭開始算,現階段就已經比油車環保了 06/07 22:00
: 要錢 我看不到
: 前言節錄
: However, since electricity generation involves using fossil fuels, it is not est
: ablished where and when the replacement of fossil-fuel-based technologies by ele
: ctric cars and heat pumps can effectively reduce overall emissions.
連google都懶
Paper都丟給你了,把title丟去google也不會?
丟上去第一個連結就是Nature,第二個連結就有全文了
https://0rz.tw/QSLm1
當然我知道要你看完全文很困難,如果你有能力看完全文就不會整天用感覺
所以我再給你一個別人整理好的摘要心得
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2020/03/200323125602.htm
在全球95%的區域,電動車的碳排放都會比油車要來的少
少數例外區域像波蘭,因為波蘭的發電以煤炭為主(80% up)
而台灣呢? 台灣的煤炭發電只有40%
以英國來說,電動汽車生命週期的炭排會比油車低30%
所以只要你多補充點知識,你就會清楚的知道
對,電動車真的比較環保
: → s7024546: 被自己開的油車廢氣毒和被特粉的中火廢氣毒很難選嗎... 06/07 22:09
多補充點知識,就會知道發電廠的效率比油車引擎好太多了
油車平均有20%就偷笑了,但發電廠就算是煤炭發電隨便都35%以上
更別提發電廠是汙染集中除塵脫硝脫硫,油車就是直接釋放給大家吸
: → kashima228: 你確定全部 都是特斯拉出錢的嗎??? 06/07 22:27
對,特斯拉的超充是特斯拉自己蓋的租的
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: 標題: Re: [討論] 為何油車車主這麼缺德?
: 時間: Sun Jun 7 20:19:08 2020
: 推 Gamer1028: 最愛抓的炭排來說 都是整台車從電池 發電 巴拉巴拉 06/07 21:07
: → Gamer1028: 一直到上路使用 來跟 "單一油車使用" 來比 06/07 21:08
: → Gamer1028: 研究幾乎都顯示電車碳排會逐年下降 但是內燃機效率 06/07 21:08
: 我就問你一個問題
: 所以現階段有比油車低了嗎?
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41893-020-0488-7
Nature的paper開示,對,就是比油車低
但我懂,與油車大爺感覺不符的一概都不可信
所以Nature是在放屁製造碳排
: → s7024546: 電車車重隨便都別人的1.5倍以上,能源效率兩倍起跳也只 06/07 21:37
: → s7024546: 是剛好及格吧 06/07 21:37
: → s7024546: 最小台的model3車重多少自己不會google嗎? 06/07 21:52
剛隨便找個尺寸馬力差不多的BMW M3
BMW M3 Competition 1560kg, 1.5倍就是2,340kg
Model 3 P 1847kg...............說好的1.5倍以上?
所以1.5倍哪裡來的? 拿Yaris來比的話是超過1.5倍啦,只不過
Yaris Model 3
車長 4150 4694
車寬 1730 1849
車高 1530 1443
馬力 107 490
車重 1135 1847
所以你的隨便找一台,是找一台體積馬力甚至車體強度低很多的鋁罐小車來比?
: 噓 shamanlin: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41893-020-0488-7 06/07 22:00
: → shamanlin: 全部從頭開始算,現階段就已經比油車環保了 06/07 22:00
: 要錢 我看不到
: 前言節錄
: However, since electricity generation involves using fossil fuels, it is not est
: ablished where and when the replacement of fossil-fuel-based technologies by ele
: ctric cars and heat pumps can effectively reduce overall emissions.
連google都懶
Paper都丟給你了,把title丟去google也不會?
丟上去第一個連結就是Nature,第二個連結就有全文了
https://0rz.tw/QSLm1
當然我知道要你看完全文很困難,如果你有能力看完全文就不會整天用感覺
所以我再給你一個別人整理好的摘要心得
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2020/03/200323125602.htm
在全球95%的區域,電動車的碳排放都會比油車要來的少
少數例外區域像波蘭,因為波蘭的發電以煤炭為主(80% up)
而台灣呢? 台灣的煤炭發電只有40%
以英國來說,電動汽車生命週期的炭排會比油車低30%
所以只要你多補充點知識,你就會清楚的知道
對,電動車真的比較環保
: → s7024546: 被自己開的油車廢氣毒和被特粉的中火廢氣毒很難選嗎... 06/07 22:09
多補充點知識,就會知道發電廠的效率比油車引擎好太多了
油車平均有20%就偷笑了,但發電廠就算是煤炭發電隨便都35%以上
更別提發電廠是汙染集中除塵脫硝脫硫,油車就是直接釋放給大家吸
: → kashima228: 你確定全部 都是特斯拉出錢的嗎??? 06/07 22:27
對,特斯拉的超充是特斯拉自己蓋的租的
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