當塞車讓高速公路不再高速 魏明谷主張不 - 常識

By Aaliyah
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※ 引述《vava5566 (發發5566)》之銘言:
: 每次討論塞車就有魔人說是因為有龜車
: 這不是龜車問題,單純瞬間車流量湧上去的問題。哪來龜車問題。你比別人還龜咧。
: 其次就是說,有人覺得白癡,日本規劃四線道,結果我們規劃三線道,這也是錯的。
: 國一、國三共六線道,一樣是塞車的,事實上線道越多,大家知道不會塞車就越愛上國
道
: ,就算變成十線道,一樣會塞的。
: 我覺得問題的根源就是李教授說的,台灣這個地方的宜居人口是七百五十六萬人,
: 目前塞了兩千三百萬人,那無論如何是會塞車的。
: 就好像說,台北市吧,這個小地方宜居人口是一百萬人,但目前塞了幾百萬人,
: 因此連去餐廳吃飯都會塞車的,這可不是有人龜速吃太慢的關係,當然有的白吃就會想
,
: 對啦,就是他們吃太慢啦,如果三分鐘吃完,餐廳還會塞嗎?那最好都不要吃不就更好
?
: 政策討論要有一點基本常識,當你看到一篇塞車文章,還在講「龜車」時,直接打0分
了
: 。這種1960年代就研究完的東西,到現在還有人拿著錯誤的東西在要求政府修正。
: 搖頭。
鍵盤開車別來發文笑掉人家大牙
自己實際去多跑幾趟就知道
如果平常日龜車和正常人比例是2:8
到了假日還會出現煞車魔,這時候龜車:煞車魔:正常人的比例會拉到4:1:5
平常日因為車流量較少大部分情況下還是可以
減少這些龜車帶來的影響。
但是一到假日什麼牛鬼蛇神全跑出來,只要這四成比例的龜車擋住兩線道以上,在車流量
接近滿載的情況下,你幾乎很難找到機會去超這些龜車,再加上煞車魔的助攻,根本就是
國道塞車的兩種罪魁禍首。
龜車幾乎都沒有自覺自己就是問題主因,自己開慢佔用了一個車道,別人要超車時又要切
到另外一個車道,有一小段時間可以說是兩個車道的速限就是龜車的速度,這種情況速限
就算拉到200一樣沒屁用。
舉例假設內線有龜車A開90,中線車B開110,這時候內線後面的車子C要從內線超車切到中
線。C切到中線時的速度絕對不可能高於A,這過程引發的狀況不只龜車速度慢的影響還有
中線煞車帶來的後續效應。
龜車不是塞車主因?
鍵盤車手才說的出來的吧?
https://youtu.be/iHzzSao6ypE
一堆龜車駕駛就是影片中的那隻雞
如果看不懂勸你還是不要開車好了
身為三寶還沒自知之明
--
: 每次討論塞車就有魔人說是因為有龜車
: 這不是龜車問題,單純瞬間車流量湧上去的問題。哪來龜車問題。你比別人還龜咧。
: 其次就是說,有人覺得白癡,日本規劃四線道,結果我們規劃三線道,這也是錯的。
: 國一、國三共六線道,一樣是塞車的,事實上線道越多,大家知道不會塞車就越愛上國
道
: ,就算變成十線道,一樣會塞的。
: 我覺得問題的根源就是李教授說的,台灣這個地方的宜居人口是七百五十六萬人,
: 目前塞了兩千三百萬人,那無論如何是會塞車的。
: 就好像說,台北市吧,這個小地方宜居人口是一百萬人,但目前塞了幾百萬人,
: 因此連去餐廳吃飯都會塞車的,這可不是有人龜速吃太慢的關係,當然有的白吃就會想
,
: 對啦,就是他們吃太慢啦,如果三分鐘吃完,餐廳還會塞嗎?那最好都不要吃不就更好
?
: 政策討論要有一點基本常識,當你看到一篇塞車文章,還在講「龜車」時,直接打0分
了
: 。這種1960年代就研究完的東西,到現在還有人拿著錯誤的東西在要求政府修正。
: 搖頭。
鍵盤開車別來發文笑掉人家大牙
自己實際去多跑幾趟就知道
如果平常日龜車和正常人比例是2:8
到了假日還會出現煞車魔,這時候龜車:煞車魔:正常人的比例會拉到4:1:5
平常日因為車流量較少大部分情況下還是可以
減少這些龜車帶來的影響。
但是一到假日什麼牛鬼蛇神全跑出來,只要這四成比例的龜車擋住兩線道以上,在車流量
接近滿載的情況下,你幾乎很難找到機會去超這些龜車,再加上煞車魔的助攻,根本就是
國道塞車的兩種罪魁禍首。
龜車幾乎都沒有自覺自己就是問題主因,自己開慢佔用了一個車道,別人要超車時又要切
到另外一個車道,有一小段時間可以說是兩個車道的速限就是龜車的速度,這種情況速限
就算拉到200一樣沒屁用。
舉例假設內線有龜車A開90,中線車B開110,這時候內線後面的車子C要從內線超車切到中
線。C切到中線時的速度絕對不可能高於A,這過程引發的狀況不只龜車速度慢的影響還有
中線煞車帶來的後續效應。
龜車不是塞車主因?
鍵盤車手才說的出來的吧?
https://youtu.be/iHzzSao6ypE
如果看不懂勸你還是不要開車好了
身為三寶還沒自知之明
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