關於電動車電池的技術發展 - 汽車

By Xanthe
at 2022-07-17T09:21
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※ 引述《shamanlin (佐藤必須死)》之銘言:
: 所以那種我都懶得回啦
: 職業駕駛都規定4小時要休息30分鐘,要是他們真常常一天開七八九十小時不休息
: 我只希望他們能好好活著
一堆廢話
油車要休息可以路邊或任意店家隨便找停車位休息
電車光是特地找充電樁就飽了,還可能要多繞路
明明想休息了卻因為附近沒充電樁不能休息,疲勞度+200%
為了充電明明眼前有空車位卻不能停
休息前還要在大太陽(or下雨)之下開車門取充電槍充電
完全就是作賤自己的低端行為
: → kazami : 汽油 台電每公升燃油大約可發3.76度電 完全不考慮充 07/13 13:57
: → kazami : 電效率 假設全部充的進去 那大概94度電 07/13 13:58
: 台電如果知道有人拿汽車內燃機比擬燃油機組發電,一定覺得你們瞧不起他
油電盲又出現了
先不說豐田的油電車熱效率有40%
你知道油電車還有動能回收嗎? 保守估計隨便再回收個四分之一
能量效率就50%了,你確定台電每台火力發電機組效率都有這麼高?
喔...我還忘了還有輸電損失、配電變壓損失、充電轉換損失
: → kazami : 如果以我的prius-c油耗換算500km只需要20公升汽油 07/13 14:03
: → kazami : 大概只能發75度電 能充進去65度電就算不錯了 07/13 14:03
: → francej : prius-c的能量效率 E53的性能 電動車迷人的地方 07/13 15:27
: 油電車是讓你在低速走走停停的時候省油,引擎會用甜蜜點位來充電
: 但如果你是一直走高速,就是直接當油車來看了
可悲的油電盲永遠就是在魯洨油電車高速不省油
真相明明是油電車高速更省油
PRIUS從林口outlet上高速開回台北車站
可以輕鬆跑到35km/L以上的油耗你知道嗎?
台北基隆來回也一樣輕鬆逼近30km/L
豐田油電車的油耗有一大段都是在短程暖車過程中吃掉的
跑中長程高速讓Atkinson引擎進入最佳工作狀態後
油耗表現根本無敵
對了,上次我開PRIUS從宜蘭走北宜山路開回台北市區
一樣開出了27km/L
長程狀態下油電車的整體效率 屌打 火力發電+電車
結案
: T牌油電車號稱熱效率40%但那是燃油轉「動能」
: 台電根據不同機組是3x~4x%,但別人這是燃油轉「電能」
: 所以要用內燃機來發電,這40%還要再經過一道動能轉電能,那還剩多少?
打臉打到你變成麵龜
實際上油電車行駛時
冷氣不需要引擎特地燒油發電,怠速都是直接熄火的
吹冷氣光靠動能回收的電就綽綽有餘
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: 所以那種我都懶得回啦
: 職業駕駛都規定4小時要休息30分鐘,要是他們真常常一天開七八九十小時不休息
: 我只希望他們能好好活著
一堆廢話
油車要休息可以路邊或任意店家隨便找停車位休息
電車光是特地找充電樁就飽了,還可能要多繞路
明明想休息了卻因為附近沒充電樁不能休息,疲勞度+200%
為了充電明明眼前有空車位卻不能停
休息前還要在大太陽(or下雨)之下開車門取充電槍充電
完全就是作賤自己的低端行為
: → kazami : 汽油 台電每公升燃油大約可發3.76度電 完全不考慮充 07/13 13:57
: → kazami : 電效率 假設全部充的進去 那大概94度電 07/13 13:58
: 台電如果知道有人拿汽車內燃機比擬燃油機組發電,一定覺得你們瞧不起他
油電盲又出現了
先不說豐田的油電車熱效率有40%
你知道油電車還有動能回收嗎? 保守估計隨便再回收個四分之一
能量效率就50%了,你確定台電每台火力發電機組效率都有這麼高?
喔...我還忘了還有輸電損失、配電變壓損失、充電轉換損失
: → kazami : 如果以我的prius-c油耗換算500km只需要20公升汽油 07/13 14:03
: → kazami : 大概只能發75度電 能充進去65度電就算不錯了 07/13 14:03
: → francej : prius-c的能量效率 E53的性能 電動車迷人的地方 07/13 15:27
: 油電車是讓你在低速走走停停的時候省油,引擎會用甜蜜點位來充電
: 但如果你是一直走高速,就是直接當油車來看了
可悲的油電盲永遠就是在魯洨油電車高速不省油
真相明明是油電車高速更省油
PRIUS從林口outlet上高速開回台北車站
可以輕鬆跑到35km/L以上的油耗你知道嗎?
台北基隆來回也一樣輕鬆逼近30km/L
豐田油電車的油耗有一大段都是在短程暖車過程中吃掉的
跑中長程高速讓Atkinson引擎進入最佳工作狀態後
油耗表現根本無敵
對了,上次我開PRIUS從宜蘭走北宜山路開回台北市區
一樣開出了27km/L
長程狀態下油電車的整體效率 屌打 火力發電+電車
結案
: T牌油電車號稱熱效率40%但那是燃油轉「動能」
: 台電根據不同機組是3x~4x%,但別人這是燃油轉「電能」
: 所以要用內燃機來發電,這40%還要再經過一道動能轉電能,那還剩多少?
打臉打到你變成麵龜
實際上油電車行駛時
冷氣不需要引擎特地燒油發電,怠速都是直接熄火的
吹冷氣光靠動能回收的電就綽綽有餘
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