仰德大道事件感想跟呼籲 - 貨車

By Olive
at 2017-07-19T21:38
at 2017-07-19T21:38
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在此先跟各位板友說抱歉,因為剛詢問跟查詢過後
在air空氣壓縮桶沒氣或是故障時,降低檔位跟手煞車等方式,都是錯誤的。
以下的部份內容皆是air空氣壓縮桶無故障,單純刹車失靈才有可能
透過離合器降檔達成引擎刹車的效果,如果air損壞或是沒氣時,
真的只能透過司機判斷擦撞護欄或是山壁達成減速,若有子車可用子車
自身刹車系統作動。
老話一句,下坡請勿打空檔跟D檔,快樂出遊,平安回家
手機排版,若閱讀不適請勿見怪
http://m.xuite.net/blog/hayabusanakagima/BUSblabla/65357924
有廣告,不喜勿入,手機排版懶的縮網址了
上面網址是說明大部分貨車的刹車系統,跟一般轎車其實有很大的差異
我目前是在線上送貨的職業駕駛,其實陽明山這條路線我送過幾次。
先就本次仰德大道的事情來說
我在遇見長下坡或是斜坡過斜時,我檔位都只有掛在二、三檔之間
另外配合排氣刹車使用,儘量不要常用腳踩刹車滑行,更不能打空檔。
本次事件可以看到貨車是以沒有刹車的狀態下衝撞車輛,我個人研判可能
1.下坡時刹車常踩動,導致刹車皮過熱失去作用
2.空氣壓縮桶沒空氣帶動氣壓刹車或是高壓管破洞無法讓刹車發揮功能。
3.空氣壓縮桶沒定時排水,造成儲存氣體不夠長下坡使用,造成刹車失靈
4.不明原因熄火,又剛好貨車用空檔滑行,空氣壓縮桶無法補充氣體
可能還有其他原因,我認為2比較有可能
其實大部份的人在經過貨車身旁或是貨車刹車的時候,都會聽到嘶嘶的排氣聲
那就是貨車利用氣壓帶動刹車皮造成的聲音
也應該看過貨車會跑到側邊拉個繩子或扳手,就會有水噴出來的情況
當然覺得2的原因是還有萬一壓縮桶沒空氣,其實喇叭基本上也沒有聲音,
因為很多大貨車都是用氣鳴喇叭,所以壓縮桶都沒氣了,怎麼會有聲音。
然後也有部份貨車會裝置水桶專門噴灑刹車皮,避免造成過熱。
感謝板友指正
km1019: 一直踩煞車過熱的不是煞車皮,是煞車油沸騰汽化
另外49到52樓兩位板友指出排氣刹車跟air空氣壓縮桶沒連動,這是我講錯了,謝謝提醒
還有現在才知道離合器跟air有連動,這我虛心領教,另外air沒氣會叫我不知道...
我只知道剛發動要等警示燈熄滅才能走...
還有很多機械原理的地方要學習,謝謝大家指正
在貨車下坡的時候,若發現刹車失靈的話
應該先用排氣刹車看是壓縮桶沒氣還是刹車皮過熱無法作用
在來就是利用檔煞的方式漸序的排到低速檔,此時車輛因為檔煞的作用
造成引擎很大的阻力跟抖動,等轉速降低一點在繼續排低檔
直到真的能排到一檔的時候,時速應該頂多四十左右,在尋找障礙物擦撞
這滿需要很大的勇氣,因為檔煞給引擎的抖動會讓平常沒試過的駕駛驚慌
更何況你要在沒刹車的狀況從可能四、五檔慢慢降到一檔
當然時速漸低還要敢用手刹車點煞
更重要的是你有足夠長的距離可以檔煞
記得之前林口往五股的下坡路段,有貨車就是刹車失靈,利用檔煞
還有加上擦撞護欄跟手刹車最後有停下
今天的新聞看的真的很心痛,每個人命跟傷者真的都是很多家庭的悲傷
不管大貨車或是一般轎車,在行經下坡路段的時候,都不應該空檔滑行
這真的是非常非常壞的習慣,尤其是下坡重頭到尾長亮刹車燈的要注意
而且出門一定要檢查五油三水跟刹車輪胎
至少刹車皮"定期"或固定"里程"更換,輪胎要巡
尤其是轎車在下坡路段真的不要常踩煞車,儘量掛在低速檔不要掛D檔
因為轎車一旦失去刹車,其實很多車款沒有其他的輔助刹車可以使用
像手排車還可以檔煞,貨車還有排氣刹車或是一些輔助刹車
希望這次的事件,能讓更多人去了解下坡的注意事項
http://www.techbang.com/posts/40667-or-why-low-speed-gear-shift-operation-road-driving-without-difficulty
有廣告,不喜勿入,手機排版懶的縮網址了
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在air空氣壓縮桶沒氣或是故障時,降低檔位跟手煞車等方式,都是錯誤的。
以下的部份內容皆是air空氣壓縮桶無故障,單純刹車失靈才有可能
透過離合器降檔達成引擎刹車的效果,如果air損壞或是沒氣時,
真的只能透過司機判斷擦撞護欄或是山壁達成減速,若有子車可用子車
自身刹車系統作動。
老話一句,下坡請勿打空檔跟D檔,快樂出遊,平安回家
手機排版,若閱讀不適請勿見怪
http://m.xuite.net/blog/hayabusanakagima/BUSblabla/65357924
有廣告,不喜勿入,手機排版懶的縮網址了
上面網址是說明大部分貨車的刹車系統,跟一般轎車其實有很大的差異
我目前是在線上送貨的職業駕駛,其實陽明山這條路線我送過幾次。
先就本次仰德大道的事情來說
我在遇見長下坡或是斜坡過斜時,我檔位都只有掛在二、三檔之間
另外配合排氣刹車使用,儘量不要常用腳踩刹車滑行,更不能打空檔。
本次事件可以看到貨車是以沒有刹車的狀態下衝撞車輛,我個人研判可能
1.下坡時刹車常踩動,導致刹車皮過熱失去作用
2.空氣壓縮桶沒空氣帶動氣壓刹車或是高壓管破洞無法讓刹車發揮功能。
3.空氣壓縮桶沒定時排水,造成儲存氣體不夠長下坡使用,造成刹車失靈
4.不明原因熄火,又剛好貨車用空檔滑行,空氣壓縮桶無法補充氣體
可能還有其他原因,我認為2比較有可能
其實大部份的人在經過貨車身旁或是貨車刹車的時候,都會聽到嘶嘶的排氣聲
那就是貨車利用氣壓帶動刹車皮造成的聲音
也應該看過貨車會跑到側邊拉個繩子或扳手,就會有水噴出來的情況
當然覺得2的原因是還有萬一壓縮桶沒空氣,其實喇叭基本上也沒有聲音,
因為很多大貨車都是用氣鳴喇叭,所以壓縮桶都沒氣了,怎麼會有聲音。
然後也有部份貨車會裝置水桶專門噴灑刹車皮,避免造成過熱。
感謝板友指正
km1019: 一直踩煞車過熱的不是煞車皮,是煞車油沸騰汽化
另外49到52樓兩位板友指出排氣刹車跟air空氣壓縮桶沒連動,這是我講錯了,謝謝提醒
還有現在才知道離合器跟air有連動,這我虛心領教,另外air沒氣會叫我不知道...
我只知道剛發動要等警示燈熄滅才能走...
還有很多機械原理的地方要學習,謝謝大家指正
在貨車下坡的時候,若發現刹車失靈的話
應該先用排氣刹車看是壓縮桶沒氣還是刹車皮過熱無法作用
在來就是利用檔煞的方式漸序的排到低速檔,此時車輛因為檔煞的作用
造成引擎很大的阻力跟抖動,等轉速降低一點在繼續排低檔
直到真的能排到一檔的時候,時速應該頂多四十左右,在尋找障礙物擦撞
這滿需要很大的勇氣,因為檔煞給引擎的抖動會讓平常沒試過的駕駛驚慌
更何況你要在沒刹車的狀況從可能四、五檔慢慢降到一檔
當然時速漸低還要敢用手刹車點煞
更重要的是你有足夠長的距離可以檔煞
記得之前林口往五股的下坡路段,有貨車就是刹車失靈,利用檔煞
還有加上擦撞護欄跟手刹車最後有停下
今天的新聞看的真的很心痛,每個人命跟傷者真的都是很多家庭的悲傷
不管大貨車或是一般轎車,在行經下坡路段的時候,都不應該空檔滑行
這真的是非常非常壞的習慣,尤其是下坡重頭到尾長亮刹車燈的要注意
而且出門一定要檢查五油三水跟刹車輪胎
至少刹車皮"定期"或固定"里程"更換,輪胎要巡
尤其是轎車在下坡路段真的不要常踩煞車,儘量掛在低速檔不要掛D檔
因為轎車一旦失去刹車,其實很多車款沒有其他的輔助刹車可以使用
像手排車還可以檔煞,貨車還有排氣刹車或是一些輔助刹車
希望這次的事件,能讓更多人去了解下坡的注意事項
http://www.techbang.com/posts/40667-or-why-low-speed-gear-shift-operation-road-driving-without-difficulty
有廣告,不喜勿入,手機排版懶的縮網址了
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