工作幾年後買車 - 保養
By Jack
at 2021-04-08T14:14
at 2021-04-08T14:14
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※ 引述《angels93319 (線屌)》之銘言:
: 車版的各位前輩們好
: 小弟工作快兩年口袋有點閒錢後就開始心癢
: 看新上市的車就覺得真香
: 身旁的同事也一個接著一個買車
: 想到養車及貸款壓力就猶疑不決
: 但買車後的生活回憶卻是無價
: 想說來車版問問大家都是工作幾年後
: 及口袋存了多少錢才買車
: 買車後是否有過後悔的念頭
: 歡迎大家一起討論
我覺得與其討論工作幾年才買車,倒不如先想想你為何要買車,再來才討論資金問題。
富二代、高所得階級或可以免費接收爸媽車的人,請按左鍵離開,因為在你們眼中車子的
開銷不值一提,以下純粹針對一般受薪階級,需要承擔買車、買房、結婚、生子壓力的普
羅大眾。
1、為何要買車?
這部分大家的理由千百種,基本上都是可以成立的,但還可以類分成兩項
(1)必要:
如果沒有車子,生活將會非常困難。或者,車子就是你工作上的必需品或生財工
具,哪麼就需要買車。但是,如果你是住在大眾運輸發達的台北,或者這部分機
車就可以彌補,或者其實你用車頻率不高,哪麼其實可以再想想,畢竟養車成本
也不低,跟機車相比更是天差地遠。
(2)想要:
這就是最大宗買車的人的理由了。要交女朋友、可以遮風避雨、安全、想帶家人
上山下海、犒賞自己、想被人看得起、炫耀等等。因為想要,才要買車,這部分
沒有對錯,所有理由都可成立,但為了下一個"資金"的討論,還是必須請大家想
想:
如果你買車是屬於「想要」的行為,就只是因為購買後會比較便利、開心,但沒
有其實也還能生活的下去,可能就要再想一下,這筆開銷是否值得。
2、資金問題:
如果你的父母或者另一半願意資助金錢幫助你買車,哪當然最好。不然一般人的購車
來源,還是來自於自己工作賺來的存款,以及貸款。
但這只是"買車的錢",你還必須要先買好後續的"養車費用"。而且一般人一生所賺得
的金錢是有限的,花費是會互相排擠。你也無法保證自己能夠永遠健健康康的工作下去
,並且不會被裁員。
哪麼涉及到車子的相關費用有哪些呢,主要有以下幾點:
1、 買車總價。
2、 貸款利息。
3、 使用年限。
4、 油錢。
5、 保養、維修、耗材更換
6、 保險。
7、 稅金、驗車費。
8、 停車費。
9、 違規罰金。
10、改裝、洗車、過路費等
11、延生性費用(嬰兒座椅、靠墊、行車紀錄器、遮光罩、隔熱紙等...)
車子不上路也要支付固定開銷,不管車子有沒有上路,每年都要固定繳納的費用,車貸利
息、稅費、保險費、驗車費、停車位租金等等。
車子上路後,衍生出來的相關費用,金額並不固定,但是項目繁多,譬如油錢、保養維修
、停車費、過路費、罰單、事故賠償、清潔美容等。
以上,通稱為持有成本。
哪麼,車子的持有成本到底多少呢? 根據車價、車款,有不同的成本費用。
幸好這部分,網路上有許多調查與統計可以看。
國產小型掀背車持有成本:
https://reurl.cc/DvE81N
中型轎車持有成本
https://reurl.cc/kVgQd9
中型掀背車持有成本
https://reurl.cc/L0qZ39
三款主流SUV持有成本
https://imgur.com/a/ttgOZ5m
詳細請看:https://reurl.cc/9ZaQrj
但是以上的統計,有很多都沒算進去,像我舉的第六項到第十一項,大部分都沒有算進去
。
舉Honda CR-V 1.5為例好了,依照網路的算法,十年要花499903,直接取50萬。
21年Honda CR-V 1.5 VTis,市價103.9萬。以ptt2/6的菜單為例,取成交總價是104萬。
也就是說未來10年,這台車要花你104+50= 154萬,而且還沒含我說的6~11項。。
除於10,就是每年花16萬(取整數),是最低標準。
原po問說,工作幾年才買車這其實是沒有意義的,因為每個人的薪資、主動被收入都不
一樣,應該要問說到底你存了多少錢,扣掉其他雜七雜八的,才來買你想要的車。
我這個人比較保守。
如果你是現金購買CR-V 1.5VTis,你至少存款當下要有150萬,你再來買這台車,
買完你至少還要剩50萬的存款比較好一點。
接著,再來討論你的月薪,才有意義。
主計處所做的去年度「家庭收支調查」,2019年台灣每個家庭平均一年的可支配所得為
106萬元,其中82.9萬元花在消費支出。如果算一下的話,是剩下23萬左右。
當然這是家庭收支,不一定代表個人,但因為這部分數據比較沒有,只好用這個來計算。
也就是你賺的錢,一年平均花掉78%,只剩下22%會存起來。
如果要買車,我覺得你的一年養車買車成本,最好不要超過年所得20%。
前面有提到,CR-V一年是花16萬(含買車錢、未來預估一年的開銷)。
依照上面的計算,以20%來算,最好你一年有年薪80萬,月薪6萬5的水準,然後你有存到
150萬左右,再來入手這台新車,你會比較寬裕。
當然,如果你覺得我夠省吃儉用,即使沒有6萬5月薪我還是買得起,那當然OK,但是未來
10年,你就會過得比較辛苦一點就是。
省吃儉用之下,如果你能存到年所得的30%就很厲害,但這應該是極限了。
也就是說,月薪4萬3、年薪52~55左右的人,即使你省吃儉用,養這台車還是會非常辛苦
且吃力,建議可以買較便宜的新車,或者買二手車,比較好養。
以上都是保守估計,有把未來買房、結婚、養兒、醫療等也考量進去,提供一些想法,
請大家多多指教。
--
: 車版的各位前輩們好
: 小弟工作快兩年口袋有點閒錢後就開始心癢
: 看新上市的車就覺得真香
: 身旁的同事也一個接著一個買車
: 想到養車及貸款壓力就猶疑不決
: 但買車後的生活回憶卻是無價
: 想說來車版問問大家都是工作幾年後
: 及口袋存了多少錢才買車
: 買車後是否有過後悔的念頭
: 歡迎大家一起討論
我覺得與其討論工作幾年才買車,倒不如先想想你為何要買車,再來才討論資金問題。
富二代、高所得階級或可以免費接收爸媽車的人,請按左鍵離開,因為在你們眼中車子的
開銷不值一提,以下純粹針對一般受薪階級,需要承擔買車、買房、結婚、生子壓力的普
羅大眾。
1、為何要買車?
這部分大家的理由千百種,基本上都是可以成立的,但還可以類分成兩項
(1)必要:
如果沒有車子,生活將會非常困難。或者,車子就是你工作上的必需品或生財工
具,哪麼就需要買車。但是,如果你是住在大眾運輸發達的台北,或者這部分機
車就可以彌補,或者其實你用車頻率不高,哪麼其實可以再想想,畢竟養車成本
也不低,跟機車相比更是天差地遠。
(2)想要:
這就是最大宗買車的人的理由了。要交女朋友、可以遮風避雨、安全、想帶家人
上山下海、犒賞自己、想被人看得起、炫耀等等。因為想要,才要買車,這部分
沒有對錯,所有理由都可成立,但為了下一個"資金"的討論,還是必須請大家想
想:
如果你買車是屬於「想要」的行為,就只是因為購買後會比較便利、開心,但沒
有其實也還能生活的下去,可能就要再想一下,這筆開銷是否值得。
2、資金問題:
如果你的父母或者另一半願意資助金錢幫助你買車,哪當然最好。不然一般人的購車
來源,還是來自於自己工作賺來的存款,以及貸款。
但這只是"買車的錢",你還必須要先買好後續的"養車費用"。而且一般人一生所賺得
的金錢是有限的,花費是會互相排擠。你也無法保證自己能夠永遠健健康康的工作下去
,並且不會被裁員。
哪麼涉及到車子的相關費用有哪些呢,主要有以下幾點:
1、 買車總價。
2、 貸款利息。
3、 使用年限。
4、 油錢。
5、 保養、維修、耗材更換
6、 保險。
7、 稅金、驗車費。
8、 停車費。
9、 違規罰金。
10、改裝、洗車、過路費等
11、延生性費用(嬰兒座椅、靠墊、行車紀錄器、遮光罩、隔熱紙等...)
車子不上路也要支付固定開銷,不管車子有沒有上路,每年都要固定繳納的費用,車貸利
息、稅費、保險費、驗車費、停車位租金等等。
車子上路後,衍生出來的相關費用,金額並不固定,但是項目繁多,譬如油錢、保養維修
、停車費、過路費、罰單、事故賠償、清潔美容等。
以上,通稱為持有成本。
哪麼,車子的持有成本到底多少呢? 根據車價、車款,有不同的成本費用。
幸好這部分,網路上有許多調查與統計可以看。
國產小型掀背車持有成本:
https://reurl.cc/DvE81N
中型轎車持有成本
https://reurl.cc/kVgQd9
中型掀背車持有成本
https://reurl.cc/L0qZ39
三款主流SUV持有成本
https://imgur.com/a/ttgOZ5m
詳細請看:https://reurl.cc/9ZaQrj
但是以上的統計,有很多都沒算進去,像我舉的第六項到第十一項,大部分都沒有算進去
。
舉Honda CR-V 1.5為例好了,依照網路的算法,十年要花499903,直接取50萬。
21年Honda CR-V 1.5 VTis,市價103.9萬。以ptt2/6的菜單為例,取成交總價是104萬。
也就是說未來10年,這台車要花你104+50= 154萬,而且還沒含我說的6~11項。。
除於10,就是每年花16萬(取整數),是最低標準。
原po問說,工作幾年才買車這其實是沒有意義的,因為每個人的薪資、主動被收入都不
一樣,應該要問說到底你存了多少錢,扣掉其他雜七雜八的,才來買你想要的車。
我這個人比較保守。
如果你是現金購買CR-V 1.5VTis,你至少存款當下要有150萬,你再來買這台車,
買完你至少還要剩50萬的存款比較好一點。
接著,再來討論你的月薪,才有意義。
主計處所做的去年度「家庭收支調查」,2019年台灣每個家庭平均一年的可支配所得為
106萬元,其中82.9萬元花在消費支出。如果算一下的話,是剩下23萬左右。
當然這是家庭收支,不一定代表個人,但因為這部分數據比較沒有,只好用這個來計算。
也就是你賺的錢,一年平均花掉78%,只剩下22%會存起來。
如果要買車,我覺得你的一年養車買車成本,最好不要超過年所得20%。
前面有提到,CR-V一年是花16萬(含買車錢、未來預估一年的開銷)。
依照上面的計算,以20%來算,最好你一年有年薪80萬,月薪6萬5的水準,然後你有存到
150萬左右,再來入手這台新車,你會比較寬裕。
當然,如果你覺得我夠省吃儉用,即使沒有6萬5月薪我還是買得起,那當然OK,但是未來
10年,你就會過得比較辛苦一點就是。
省吃儉用之下,如果你能存到年所得的30%就很厲害,但這應該是極限了。
也就是說,月薪4萬3、年薪52~55左右的人,即使你省吃儉用,養這台車還是會非常辛苦
且吃力,建議可以買較便宜的新車,或者買二手車,比較好養。
以上都是保守估計,有把未來買房、結婚、養兒、醫療等也考量進去,提供一些想法,
請大家多多指教。
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