台電推專設一戶EMS系統 - 特斯拉
By Sierra Rose
at 2023-04-25T22:52
at 2023-04-25T22:52
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YT看到這部影片,才知道有ems這東東。
https://bit.ly/421wg9z
整理重點如下:
1.案例中500戶社區,有160戶拿錢出來裝EMS系統。這160戶每戶要出5萬元。
2. 五萬元是ems系統,之後各別車主拉到車位的線路/充電柱費用另計。
問題:
1.充電的電費怎麼付?
2.非前期esm用戶,之後要加入的費用,怎麼訂價,應該頭很痛。
※ 引述《francej (~~~~)》之銘言
: ※ 引述《Prius4 (普瑞斯四代)》之銘言:
: : https://youtu.be/g_r8U-gSriI
: : 原本台電自己允許的表後接電
: : 看來有可能要被打成黑五類了
: : 以後只要管委會拿這影片來
: : 然後住戶又看到整體規劃EMS的造價
: : 九成九直接反對到底
: : https://i.imgur.com/7vme2ST.jpg
: : https://i.imgur.com/wzXOiXP.jpg
: : https://i.imgur.com/JLx5F5J.jpg
: : https://i.imgur.com/PnU6brC.jpg
: EMS也不能說不好 配合台電電動車充電費率 離峰時間拉長到18小時 老實說就電費來講
: 對電動車車主來說是個利多
: 你住大樓自家電表走二段式時間電價充電動車 除非你白天家裡都不用電 不然跟用累進費
: 率相比 也不會差太多
: 社區如果有EMS專屬電表走電動車充電費率一度電2塊 然後你自己家裡還是可以繼續用累
: 進費率,冷氣、除濕機、烤箱爽爽用
: 只能說EMS初期投資會需要花筆錢建設 但後續的電費是可以省下不少
: 說到最後關鍵還是鄰居組成 如果多數鄰居對電動車都感興趣 不管是要自家錶後拉線
: 還是要建設EMS 都是選項
: 鄰居組成如果只有少數人要換電動車 那不管有沒有要用EMS 都要花好一番功夫
: 當然最爽的還是住透天可以搞獨立電表給電動車充電的 將來採光罩太陽能產品成熟
: Tesla Wall等儲能設備價格降下來後 透天的電費真的會省得很有感
: ※ 編輯: francej (114.25.88.23 臺灣), 05/31/2022 00:15:39
: 市場會自己平衡
: 5%也沒關係 想開電動車的 要買房子 換房子 自然就會往那5%去擠 擠不下 這比例又會
: 往上升
: ※ 編輯: francej (114.25.88.23 臺灣), 05/31/2022 01:01:21
: 事實上台電EMS, 電動車專屬費率 這背後是(非特斯拉陣營)的車商在運作的
: 比如某知名日系最近推的純電SUV 軟體、續航、操控 都很難跟一線EV品牌競爭
: 那為什麼消費者要去買這種車呢...只能靠兩招其一是售價壓低 其二是壓低持有成本
: 住大樓回家隨時充電,都是一度2元 這產品吸引力就營造出來了 也不用跟人家一樣
: 去搞Lv3,拚直線加速,拚續航力,消費者照樣會買單
: 所以這是被控市場沒錯 是傳統車商為了賣EV,但又不想在軟體、操控、續航上做太多文
章
: 嘗試在控制市場走向
: EMS的建設成本終究是會越來越便宜的 將來不會比社區換電梯貴多少啦
: ※ 編輯: francej (114.25.88.23 臺灣), 05/31/2022 09:33:34
: 就當作是裝(維護)一台電梯的價錢 處理啊
: 至於要怎麼分攤成本最公平 這個就看各社區自己溝通好就好了 就像電梯住低樓層的
: 可能也會覺得他都又不太坐電梯 為什麼要跟高樓層的出一樣多錢
: ※ 編輯: francej (114.25.88.23 臺灣), 05/31/2022 09:39:58
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https://bit.ly/421wg9z
整理重點如下:
1.案例中500戶社區,有160戶拿錢出來裝EMS系統。這160戶每戶要出5萬元。
2. 五萬元是ems系統,之後各別車主拉到車位的線路/充電柱費用另計。
問題:
1.充電的電費怎麼付?
2.非前期esm用戶,之後要加入的費用,怎麼訂價,應該頭很痛。
※ 引述《francej (~~~~)》之銘言
: ※ 引述《Prius4 (普瑞斯四代)》之銘言:
: : https://youtu.be/g_r8U-gSriI
: : 看來有可能要被打成黑五類了
: : 以後只要管委會拿這影片來
: : 然後住戶又看到整體規劃EMS的造價
: : 九成九直接反對到底
: : https://i.imgur.com/7vme2ST.jpg
: : https://i.imgur.com/wzXOiXP.jpg
: : https://i.imgur.com/JLx5F5J.jpg
: : https://i.imgur.com/PnU6brC.jpg
: EMS也不能說不好 配合台電電動車充電費率 離峰時間拉長到18小時 老實說就電費來講
: 對電動車車主來說是個利多
: 你住大樓自家電表走二段式時間電價充電動車 除非你白天家裡都不用電 不然跟用累進費
: 率相比 也不會差太多
: 社區如果有EMS專屬電表走電動車充電費率一度電2塊 然後你自己家裡還是可以繼續用累
: 進費率,冷氣、除濕機、烤箱爽爽用
: 只能說EMS初期投資會需要花筆錢建設 但後續的電費是可以省下不少
: 說到最後關鍵還是鄰居組成 如果多數鄰居對電動車都感興趣 不管是要自家錶後拉線
: 還是要建設EMS 都是選項
: 鄰居組成如果只有少數人要換電動車 那不管有沒有要用EMS 都要花好一番功夫
: 當然最爽的還是住透天可以搞獨立電表給電動車充電的 將來採光罩太陽能產品成熟
: Tesla Wall等儲能設備價格降下來後 透天的電費真的會省得很有感
: ※ 編輯: francej (114.25.88.23 臺灣), 05/31/2022 00:15:39
: 市場會自己平衡
: 5%也沒關係 想開電動車的 要買房子 換房子 自然就會往那5%去擠 擠不下 這比例又會
: 往上升
: ※ 編輯: francej (114.25.88.23 臺灣), 05/31/2022 01:01:21
: 事實上台電EMS, 電動車專屬費率 這背後是(非特斯拉陣營)的車商在運作的
: 比如某知名日系最近推的純電SUV 軟體、續航、操控 都很難跟一線EV品牌競爭
: 那為什麼消費者要去買這種車呢...只能靠兩招其一是售價壓低 其二是壓低持有成本
: 住大樓回家隨時充電,都是一度2元 這產品吸引力就營造出來了 也不用跟人家一樣
: 去搞Lv3,拚直線加速,拚續航力,消費者照樣會買單
: 所以這是被控市場沒錯 是傳統車商為了賣EV,但又不想在軟體、操控、續航上做太多文
章
: 嘗試在控制市場走向
: EMS的建設成本終究是會越來越便宜的 將來不會比社區換電梯貴多少啦
: ※ 編輯: francej (114.25.88.23 臺灣), 05/31/2022 09:33:34
: 就當作是裝(維護)一台電梯的價錢 處理啊
: 至於要怎麼分攤成本最公平 這個就看各社區自己溝通好就好了 就像電梯住低樓層的
: 可能也會覺得他都又不太坐電梯 為什麼要跟高樓層的出一樣多錢
: ※ 編輯: francej (114.25.88.23 臺灣), 05/31/2022 09:39:58
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