朋友跟管委會申請充電柱的回函 - 特斯拉
By Vanessa
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你很生氣呢? 不知道在氣甚麼?
現階段EV就是這樣啊,世界的趨勢還蠻明顯的吧
以美國來說,2019 Hybrid賣最好的是Rav 4 (92k),第二好的是Prius (47k)
而Tesla在2019賣的總數是200k (其中160k為Model 3)
衝擊最大的就是Prius了,2017以後每年接近35%的衰退
過去Prius 3的時候就算產品世代末期也沒有掉那麼兇
而Corolla (美國神A) Hybrid只賣了16k
以美國代表全世界車市算是蠻客觀的觀點
一來美國市場極大,二來美國車價算是公認的合理反映價值
第三就是美國車市只要你願意給牛肉,品牌價值是可以被克服的
所以看的出來EV大概會如此走向:
北美佔有率會逐漸升高,第一是美國那個環境很適合EV生存(車庫)
第二美國基礎建設算是很好的
第三美國整體能源環境適合
接著就是中國,因為中國一直想要在載具上面超車歐美日
所以EV也是耕耘的很深很久,內燃機變速箱是不可能了
所以中國大概會用黨的力量大力推廣、優惠各種EV,因此中國主要城市大概被EV佔領
(充電? 中國人要什麼就做甚麼XDDDD)
世界最大的兩個車市都瘋狂追逐EV,接著就會變成下面這樣
高度工業化以及基礎建設完善的已開發國家會全力轉往EV,其中EV也成為經濟動能
開發中國家繼續用投資能量逐漸衰竭的內燃機系列(包括Hybrid)
那台灣屬於那種喔? 後者吧
在台灣很簡單啊,能力夠的才有選擇,沒能力的也只能抱怨
※ 引述《Sturmvogel (Schwalbe)》之銘言:
: ※ 引述《w510048 (黨的恩情比山高)》之銘言:
: : 目前電動車是非常仰賴充電樁與高壓電力網的佈建,
: : 而且特斯拉的超級充電站能比加油站多嗎?
: : 社區管委會充電樁表決有時是相當吃運氣的。
: : 看到此心得文,
: : 幾乎可確定油電混合車是「目前」情況最好的選擇,
: : 這是在兼顧環保與燃油車的便利性的考慮。
: : 電動車要全面普及真的要等到10年後才有可能了。
: 教徒面對這種質疑
: 只會跟你跳針說利用拉屎抽煙吃飯睡覺時充電就好了
: 或是拿個西班牙還是哪個國家油罐車司機罷工的新聞跟你說汽油也沒多可靠
: 拿些未來烏托邦式的幻想來告訴你其實沒那麼糟糕
: 現實是充電慢就是慢
: 固然在某些情況下運作ok
: 當你說:其實在怎樣怎樣的時候,它也不見得會比較差時候
: 就表示它比較差
: 我曾經問過教徒,很多人車子停的是堤防,戶外停車場,機械車位,或是路邊
: 這些人如果要開電動車,要怎麼解決充電的問題
: 教徒的答案永遠在跳針
: 電動車現在就是只能給特定型態的族群使用
: 對於要取代油車,如果在目前技術狀態下
: 充電樁絕對是個問題
: 當然教徒會繼續教訓守舊無知的管委會
: 那你們就繼續去教訓
: 現實就是電動車能源儲存的方式受到物理限制
: 這個問題靠信仰跟優越感是解決不了的
: 所以教徒面對這方面質疑時只能跳針了
--
現階段EV就是這樣啊,世界的趨勢還蠻明顯的吧
以美國來說,2019 Hybrid賣最好的是Rav 4 (92k),第二好的是Prius (47k)
而Tesla在2019賣的總數是200k (其中160k為Model 3)
衝擊最大的就是Prius了,2017以後每年接近35%的衰退
過去Prius 3的時候就算產品世代末期也沒有掉那麼兇
而Corolla (美國神A) Hybrid只賣了16k
以美國代表全世界車市算是蠻客觀的觀點
一來美國市場極大,二來美國車價算是公認的合理反映價值
第三就是美國車市只要你願意給牛肉,品牌價值是可以被克服的
所以看的出來EV大概會如此走向:
北美佔有率會逐漸升高,第一是美國那個環境很適合EV生存(車庫)
第二美國基礎建設算是很好的
第三美國整體能源環境適合
接著就是中國,因為中國一直想要在載具上面超車歐美日
所以EV也是耕耘的很深很久,內燃機變速箱是不可能了
所以中國大概會用黨的力量大力推廣、優惠各種EV,因此中國主要城市大概被EV佔領
(充電? 中國人要什麼就做甚麼XDDDD)
世界最大的兩個車市都瘋狂追逐EV,接著就會變成下面這樣
高度工業化以及基礎建設完善的已開發國家會全力轉往EV,其中EV也成為經濟動能
開發中國家繼續用投資能量逐漸衰竭的內燃機系列(包括Hybrid)
那台灣屬於那種喔? 後者吧
在台灣很簡單啊,能力夠的才有選擇,沒能力的也只能抱怨
※ 引述《Sturmvogel (Schwalbe)》之銘言:
: ※ 引述《w510048 (黨的恩情比山高)》之銘言:
: : 目前電動車是非常仰賴充電樁與高壓電力網的佈建,
: : 而且特斯拉的超級充電站能比加油站多嗎?
: : 社區管委會充電樁表決有時是相當吃運氣的。
: : 看到此心得文,
: : 幾乎可確定油電混合車是「目前」情況最好的選擇,
: : 這是在兼顧環保與燃油車的便利性的考慮。
: : 電動車要全面普及真的要等到10年後才有可能了。
: 教徒面對這種質疑
: 只會跟你跳針說利用拉屎抽煙吃飯睡覺時充電就好了
: 或是拿個西班牙還是哪個國家油罐車司機罷工的新聞跟你說汽油也沒多可靠
: 拿些未來烏托邦式的幻想來告訴你其實沒那麼糟糕
: 現實是充電慢就是慢
: 固然在某些情況下運作ok
: 當你說:其實在怎樣怎樣的時候,它也不見得會比較差時候
: 就表示它比較差
: 我曾經問過教徒,很多人車子停的是堤防,戶外停車場,機械車位,或是路邊
: 這些人如果要開電動車,要怎麼解決充電的問題
: 教徒的答案永遠在跳針
: 電動車現在就是只能給特定型態的族群使用
: 對於要取代油車,如果在目前技術狀態下
: 充電樁絕對是個問題
: 當然教徒會繼續教訓守舊無知的管委會
: 那你們就繼續去教訓
: 現實就是電動車能源儲存的方式受到物理限制
: 這個問題靠信仰跟優越感是解決不了的
: 所以教徒面對這方面質疑時只能跳針了
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