為什麼volvo在台灣的市佔不高 - Audi
By Elizabeth
at 2016-10-17T06:30
at 2016-10-17T06:30
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※ 引述《hydefans (hyde)》之銘言:
: 推 gingiby: S60 iihs的成績在同級比較明明排不上第一 怎麼會有領先同 10/16 14:06
: → gingiby: 級的安全性這種結論呢? 10/16 14:06
: → hydefans: 時間來到2016年 IIHS測試了 新款的 MB C class AUDI A 10/16 14:35
: → hydefans: 4 讓我們看看假人撞擊感應數據 在小面積撞擊測試中 MB 10/16 14:35
: → hydefans: C class 頭部衝擊指數 161 AUDI A4 171 2011年就上 10/16 14:35
: → hydefans: 市的S60 只有86....此項指數越低代表駕駛受到衝擊傷害 10/16 14:35
: → hydefans: 越小 不僅僅只有頭部 還有其他各項數據如頸部 胸部 膝 10/16 14:35
: → hydefans: 部等等的數據 2011年推出的S60 依然在部份數據領先 新 10/16 14:35
: → hydefans: 款的MB C class & AUDI A4 固然不是全部數據都比較優 10/16 14:35
: → hydefans: 異 但安全數據依然比最新的車款在部份項目領先 10/16 14:35
: → hydefans: 而在一般正面撞擊測試中 S60 駕駛頭部衝擊指數不如新 10/16 14:40
: → hydefans: 款 C class & A4 但在其他指標有些比新款 C lass & A4 10/16 14:40
: → hydefans: 好 10/16 14:40
hydefans大大您推了這麼多推文
主要就是依據您說的一項前提
"頭部衝擊指數... 此項指數越低代表駕駛受到衝擊傷害越小"
想請教h大是以甚麼依據來做此推論?
至少就我找到的資料而言
"頭部衝擊指數... 此項指數越低代表駕駛受到衝擊傷害越小" 這句話是錯的
如果h大有其他證據佐證 再麻煩賜教了 感謝
之前跟同是V車主的compression大大討論過
曾經PO了一篇文章
文章代碼 #1MysBM-o
文章網址: https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/car/M.1458791126.A.FB2.html
節錄關於HIC-15的部分文字如下:
Is a 2000 HIC twice as 'bad' as a 1000 HIC?
Likewise, for lower values, is it proportionately 'better'?
......
Categorizing the possible injuries to the human head is a complex process.
There is currently not any consensus opinion on a standardized procedure
or predictor.
......
Limitations of the HIC
‧ The HIC calculation is not an injury predictor;
it is a pass/fail baseline measure used for ATDs in full-scale testing
‧ There is no direct correlation of and/or values for HIC other than the
pass/fail value prescribed by NHTSA
......
The ATB should be used in forensics and accident reconstruction only as a
tool to assist in understanding gross occupant kinematics.
Any results or conclusions drawn from an ATB application related to HIC
calculations or detailed occupant kinematics involve so many approximations,
estimates, and assumptions that they must be recognized as not being
compatible with sound engineering practices and principles and, therefore,
not scientifically supportable
中文的部分可以看我原本文章
所以 "頭部衝擊指數... 此項指數越低代表駕駛受到衝擊傷害越小"
在這項前提本身是錯的情況之下
推文的其他推論
如"安全數據依然比最新的車款在部份項目領先"
"但在其他指標有些比新款 C lass & A4好"等等
這些推論就有誤導之嫌 除非有其他證據來佐證
畢竟有很多網友會參考IIHS的成績來買車 不得不慎
以S60來說
在Small overlap front-->Restraints and dummy kinematics只拿到A
http://imgur.com/abBsPyu
在Front crash prevention只拿到5分 (High-speed autobrake只有2分)
http://imgur.com/2MlDuBj
以A4來比較 全部細項皆是G
包括Small overlap front全部都是G
http://imgur.com/h5iqI88
Front crash prevention拿到滿分6分 (High-speed autobrake拿到3分)
http://imgur.com/oMs3YLp
IIHS撞測成績分四級
G(綠色圖示 Good)>A(黃色圖示 Acceptable)>M(橘色圖示 Marginal)>P(紅色圖示 Poor)
撞測結果安不安全 就算看不懂英文 光看顏色就知道
因此 以"目前"的IIHS撞測成績而言
A4比S60來的安全
--
: 推 gingiby: S60 iihs的成績在同級比較明明排不上第一 怎麼會有領先同 10/16 14:06
: → gingiby: 級的安全性這種結論呢? 10/16 14:06
: → hydefans: 時間來到2016年 IIHS測試了 新款的 MB C class AUDI A 10/16 14:35
: → hydefans: 4 讓我們看看假人撞擊感應數據 在小面積撞擊測試中 MB 10/16 14:35
: → hydefans: C class 頭部衝擊指數 161 AUDI A4 171 2011年就上 10/16 14:35
: → hydefans: 市的S60 只有86....此項指數越低代表駕駛受到衝擊傷害 10/16 14:35
: → hydefans: 越小 不僅僅只有頭部 還有其他各項數據如頸部 胸部 膝 10/16 14:35
: → hydefans: 部等等的數據 2011年推出的S60 依然在部份數據領先 新 10/16 14:35
: → hydefans: 款的MB C class & AUDI A4 固然不是全部數據都比較優 10/16 14:35
: → hydefans: 異 但安全數據依然比最新的車款在部份項目領先 10/16 14:35
: → hydefans: 而在一般正面撞擊測試中 S60 駕駛頭部衝擊指數不如新 10/16 14:40
: → hydefans: 款 C class & A4 但在其他指標有些比新款 C lass & A4 10/16 14:40
: → hydefans: 好 10/16 14:40
hydefans大大您推了這麼多推文
主要就是依據您說的一項前提
"頭部衝擊指數... 此項指數越低代表駕駛受到衝擊傷害越小"
想請教h大是以甚麼依據來做此推論?
至少就我找到的資料而言
"頭部衝擊指數... 此項指數越低代表駕駛受到衝擊傷害越小" 這句話是錯的
如果h大有其他證據佐證 再麻煩賜教了 感謝
之前跟同是V車主的compression大大討論過
曾經PO了一篇文章
文章代碼 #1MysBM-o
文章網址: https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/car/M.1458791126.A.FB2.html
節錄關於HIC-15的部分文字如下:
Is a 2000 HIC twice as 'bad' as a 1000 HIC?
Likewise, for lower values, is it proportionately 'better'?
......
Categorizing the possible injuries to the human head is a complex process.
There is currently not any consensus opinion on a standardized procedure
or predictor.
......
Limitations of the HIC
‧ The HIC calculation is not an injury predictor;
it is a pass/fail baseline measure used for ATDs in full-scale testing
‧ There is no direct correlation of and/or values for HIC other than the
pass/fail value prescribed by NHTSA
......
The ATB should be used in forensics and accident reconstruction only as a
tool to assist in understanding gross occupant kinematics.
Any results or conclusions drawn from an ATB application related to HIC
calculations or detailed occupant kinematics involve so many approximations,
estimates, and assumptions that they must be recognized as not being
compatible with sound engineering practices and principles and, therefore,
not scientifically supportable
中文的部分可以看我原本文章
所以 "頭部衝擊指數... 此項指數越低代表駕駛受到衝擊傷害越小"
在這項前提本身是錯的情況之下
推文的其他推論
如"安全數據依然比最新的車款在部份項目領先"
"但在其他指標有些比新款 C lass & A4好"等等
這些推論就有誤導之嫌 除非有其他證據來佐證
畢竟有很多網友會參考IIHS的成績來買車 不得不慎
以S60來說
在Small overlap front-->Restraints and dummy kinematics只拿到A
http://imgur.com/abBsPyu
在Front crash prevention只拿到5分 (High-speed autobrake只有2分)
http://imgur.com/2MlDuBj
以A4來比較 全部細項皆是G
包括Small overlap front全部都是G
http://imgur.com/h5iqI88
Front crash prevention拿到滿分6分 (High-speed autobrake拿到3分)
http://imgur.com/oMs3YLp
IIHS撞測成績分四級
G(綠色圖示 Good)>A(黃色圖示 Acceptable)>M(橘色圖示 Marginal)>P(紅色圖示 Poor)
撞測結果安不安全 就算看不懂英文 光看顏色就知道
因此 以"目前"的IIHS撞測成績而言
A4比S60來的安全
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